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mallar · 12-24-2002, 02:35 PM

i just realized that winxp is reporting my 80gb hard drive as 31.4gb....file system: NTFS .. anyone got ideas on how to get all 80gb back?

darue_ivywood · 12-24-2002, 02:39 PM

partitioned?

mallar · 12-24-2002, 02:44 PM

what? :P

darue_ivywood · 12-24-2002, 02:45 PM

do you possibly have it partitioned?

Daka · 12-24-2002, 02:47 PM

Well you can run partition magic on it. BUT first make sure your Bios is seeing the drive as 80GB and not as 34/40. If it is youll have to flash your bios if possible to correct the problem. You can also run into data corruption if the Mobo sees it as 40GB then you flash it and it sees 80. The file system was installed on what the Mobo said was 40 gb. Thats worst case though.

What manu is the drive?

When you go into Manage Storage does it show the drive as 80? Like 34 is used and the other 40 is unpartitiond space?

Daka.

mallar · 12-24-2002, 02:49 PM

it just says used space: 64mb free space: 31.4gb the whole pie graph is pink which is free space

ill go see what the bios says now

Daka · 12-24-2002, 02:52 PM

Right click on My computer.

Left click on Manage.

Left click on Disk manager.

This will bring up a window that shows all your disk's.

What does that window say about the HDD?

Daka.

mallar · 12-24-2002, 02:54 PM

file system: NTFS
capacity: 31.50gb
free space: 31.43gb
status: healthy

bios also says the capacity is 31gb but the name of the drive is WDC80 and then some other numbers =T

Daka · 12-24-2002, 03:00 PM

Well I would say go to the Mobo Manu website and pull down the new Bios. PRAY no corruption take place. If the bios sees the drive at 40GB then ANY OS or drive utility will see the same thing.

Daka

mallar · 12-24-2002, 03:03 PM

it used to say 80gb, is there a way to see if i partitioned or something it down to 40gb?

Daka · 12-24-2002, 03:07 PM

Well if the Bios used to say 80GB and now doesnt. There may be a problem with HDD itself. Download WD lifeguard and run the tests on it.

In the disk Managment area that will show you if the drive is partitiond. You need to remember that the Mobo says its 40 Therefore the OS will say it 40. You always want to check the bios first to verfy. try running the HDD detect feature in the bios and see if it sees it different.

I cant think of anything else atm to help though sorry. Like I say test the HDD and check the Mobo's website to see if there is a new bios that help see 40/60/80+ HDD. A lot of manus had to come out with updates for larger HDD's.

Good luck to ya.

Daka

mallar · 12-24-2002, 03:11 PM

the bios detect thing said 40gb also

i will get the wd thing off their website if i can find it

ill also download new bios if i can find them

mallar · 12-24-2002, 03:16 PM

actually, the outline of the drive in the management thing is blue, and the key at the bottom says blue="primary partition" does that mean anything?

mallar · 12-24-2002, 03:19 PM

i did "delete partition" and the drive went away >< is there an undo?

mallar · 12-24-2002, 03:41 PM

i get the western digital disk, do the partition format option on the hard drive...says i will have 1 partition 76gb big...i finish, restart, log on winxp...when i try to get in the drive it says it needs to format it and the size reads as 31.4gb

Ssetti · 12-24-2002, 04:48 PM

I know nothing about NT, but I do know that some operating systems (or some drive formats) have a limit to how large a single partition can be.

Try setting up several partitions none of which are larger than 31.4gb, and see what happens.

mallar · 12-24-2002, 04:59 PM

nah sssetti, it used to be 80gb, 1 partition......thanks for the help though

Barridor · 12-24-2002, 05:49 PM

Try reinstalling the hard drive manually in winxp.. odds are though your going to have to reinstall windows xp to get it to detect the full partition. I cant remember how but there is a way to manually install hardware during a winxp installation that will probably work like a charm.

darue_ivywood · 12-24-2002, 06:07 PM

Might wanna post your MB specs..

Try disabling the drive in BIOS, reboot with no drive present, re-enter BIOS and forcing it to re-detect. This way there is no chance of residual crap stored in CMOS. (or you can just clear CMOS via MB )

Another thing to do would be to boot to WinXP CD(adjust BIOS to do this)

press enter when Setup screen appears

press F8 to accept EULA

When the WinXP Setup screen comes up that lists current WinXP installations, press ESC to continue to fresh install without repairing.

The setup screen will then display the current drive info...note it down.

IF its not displayed properly, its more than likely a BIOS issue since the WD Software recognized it fully.

If thats the case, contact the MB manufacturer and find an update.

IF it does detect the correct size, you will need to delete partition and re-install WinXP making sure you use NTFS or if you want FAT32, a Win98 Setup disk to fdisk and format it entirely.

mallar · 12-24-2002, 08:29 PM

ok, here we go...
MB specs: abit kx7 333

i updated bios, still same thing

bios says its 31gb, so does windows

i downloaded and ran the WD diagnostic stuff, when i chose to partition and format the drive, it said it was 76gb....so WD is reporting the 80gb, and bios/windows isnt....im guessing then that this is a bios issue? ofcourse i realize it on christmas when no one is open :P

anyone think differently?

Daka · 12-24-2002, 08:42 PM

Have you tried to redetect the drive via bios?
If wddiag sees the drive as 80GB then there is something with the bios. NTFS does not have a GB limit so thats not it.

One thing you can do is short out the bios via a jumper it should be marked on the board with a "clear cmos" or just "CMOS" Unplug the power cord ( some say it makes no diff) but there is always 5Volts from ATX to Mobo. Its just something I do. Anyway Move the jumper to pin 2-3 usually for about 10 Seconds. Then go in and check bios it should be reset. After that you can select reset orig bios config via bios menu. The bios should be set to Auto for the HDD, but check it anyway.

IF all else fails and noone has any other advise Use the WDDIAG disk and "Zero out the drive" there is no recovery for this BUT it will set the drive back to factory default and allow you to redo you OS.

But the od thing is the bios is seeing the drive as a 40GB.

Daka.

mallar · 12-24-2002, 08:47 PM

daka,

yeah, ive tried clearing the cmos a few times, no help...ive also tried auto detecting it through bios, it still said 34gb...i have my os on my primary hard drive, which is actually being reported as the wrong size also, but i dont care about that...so i dont care about the recovery thing

i will look for the zero out option now

Daka · 12-24-2002, 08:48 PM

You can always check there Faq's and user forums.

http://forum.abit-usa.com/index.php?

sometimes it helps if you can see if someone had the same issue.

Daka

mallar · 12-24-2002, 08:51 PM

also, after i partition and format the drive through the wd program.... i go into winxp and try to get into the drive and an error comes up and says "the drive is not formatted, would u like to format now" and when i click yes it says 31.4gb :/

but in the wd program i supposedly partitioned and formatted the drive into 1 76gb partition

mallar · 12-24-2002, 08:55 PM

i can't find the zero option thingy.......but, it only takes like half a second to format and partition an 80gb drive, could that be a problem?

12-24-2002, 02:35 PM	#1
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	my hard drive........ i just realized that winxp is reporting my 80gb hard drive as 31.4gb....file system: NTFS .. anyone got ideas on how to get all 80gb back?

12-24-2002, 02:47 PM	#5
Daka Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 31	Partition Well you can run partition magic on it. BUT first make sure your Bios is seeing the drive as 80GB and not as 34/40. If it is youll have to flash your bios if possible to correct the problem. You can also run into data corruption if the Mobo sees it as 40GB then you flash it and it sees 80. The file system was installed on what the Mobo said was 40 gb. Thats worst case though. What manu is the drive? When you go into Manage Storage does it show the drive as 80? Like 34 is used and the other 40 is unpartitiond space? Daka.

12-24-2002, 02:52 PM	#7
Daka Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 31	Disk manager Right click on My computer. Left click on Manage. Left click on Disk manager. This will bring up a window that shows all your disk's. What does that window say about the HDD? Daka.

12-24-2002, 03:00 PM	#9
Daka Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 31	Bios Well I would say go to the Mobo Manu website and pull down the new Bios. PRAY no corruption take place. If the bios sees the drive at 40GB then ANY OS or drive utility will see the same thing. Daka

12-24-2002, 03:07 PM	#11
Daka Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 31	Hrmm Well if the Bios used to say 80GB and now doesnt. There may be a problem with HDD itself. Download WD lifeguard and run the tests on it. In the disk Managment area that will show you if the drive is partitiond. You need to remember that the Mobo says its 40 Therefore the OS will say it 40. You always want to check the bios first to verfy. try running the HDD detect feature in the bios and see if it sees it different. I cant think of anything else atm to help though sorry. Like I say test the HDD and check the Mobo's website to see if there is a new bios that help see 40/60/80+ HDD. A lot of manus had to come out with updates for larger HDD's. Good luck to ya. Daka

12-24-2002, 02:39 PM	#2
darue_ivywood Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 681	partitioned?

12-24-2002, 02:44 PM	#3
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	what? :P

12-24-2002, 02:45 PM	#4
darue_ivywood Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 681	do you possibly have it partitioned?

12-24-2002, 02:49 PM	#6
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	it just says used space: 64mb free space: 31.4gb the whole pie graph is pink which is free space ill go see what the bios says now

12-24-2002, 02:54 PM	#8
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	file system: NTFS capacity: 31.50gb free space: 31.43gb status: healthy bios also says the capacity is 31gb but the name of the drive is WDC80 and then some other numbers =T

12-24-2002, 03:03 PM	#10
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	it used to say 80gb, is there a way to see if i partitioned or something it down to 40gb?

12-24-2002, 03:11 PM	#12
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	the bios detect thing said 40gb also i will get the wd thing off their website if i can find it ill also download new bios if i can find them

12-24-2002, 03:16 PM	#13
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	actually, the outline of the drive in the management thing is blue, and the key at the bottom says blue="primary partition" does that mean anything?

12-24-2002, 03:19 PM	#14
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	shit i did "delete partition" and the drive went away >< is there an undo?

12-24-2002, 03:41 PM	#15
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	fuckin a i get the western digital disk, do the partition format option on the hard drive...says i will have 1 partition 76gb big...i finish, restart, log on winxp...when i try to get in the drive it says it needs to format it and the size reads as 31.4gb

12-24-2002, 04:48 PM	#16
Ssetti Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 342	I know nothing about NT, but I do know that some operating systems (or some drive formats) have a limit to how large a single partition can be. Try setting up several partitions none of which are larger than 31.4gb, and see what happens.

12-24-2002, 04:59 PM	#17
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	nah sssetti, it used to be 80gb, 1 partition......thanks for the help though

12-24-2002, 05:49 PM	#18
Barridor Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16	Try reinstalling the hard drive manually in winxp.. odds are though your going to have to reinstall windows xp to get it to detect the full partition. I cant remember how but there is a way to manually install hardware during a winxp installation that will probably work like a charm.

12-24-2002, 06:07 PM	#19
darue_ivywood Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 681	Might wanna post your MB specs.. Try disabling the drive in BIOS, reboot with no drive present, re-enter BIOS and forcing it to re-detect. This way there is no chance of residual crap stored in CMOS. (or you can just clear CMOS via MB ) Another thing to do would be to boot to WinXP CD(adjust BIOS to do this) press enter when Setup screen appears press F8 to accept EULA When the WinXP Setup screen comes up that lists current WinXP installations, press ESC to continue to fresh install without repairing. The setup screen will then display the current drive info...note it down. IF its not displayed properly, its more than likely a BIOS issue since the WD Software recognized it fully. If thats the case, contact the MB manufacturer and find an update. IF it does detect the correct size, you will need to delete partition and re-install WinXP making sure you use NTFS or if you want FAT32, a Win98 Setup disk to fdisk and format it entirely.

12-24-2002, 08:29 PM	#20
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	ok, here we go... MB specs: abit kx7 333 i updated bios, still same thing bios says its 31gb, so does windows i downloaded and ran the WD diagnostic stuff, when i chose to partition and format the drive, it said it was 76gb....so WD is reporting the 80gb, and bios/windows isnt....im guessing then that this is a bios issue? ofcourse i realize it on christmas when no one is open :P anyone think differently?

12-24-2002, 08:42 PM	#21
Daka Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 31	Bios Have you tried to redetect the drive via bios? If wddiag sees the drive as 80GB then there is something with the bios. NTFS does not have a GB limit so thats not it. One thing you can do is short out the bios via a jumper it should be marked on the board with a "clear cmos" or just "CMOS" Unplug the power cord ( some say it makes no diff) but there is always 5Volts from ATX to Mobo. Its just something I do. Anyway Move the jumper to pin 2-3 usually for about 10 Seconds. Then go in and check bios it should be reset. After that you can select reset orig bios config via bios menu. The bios should be set to Auto for the HDD, but check it anyway. IF all else fails and noone has any other advise Use the WDDIAG disk and "Zero out the drive" there is no recovery for this BUT it will set the drive back to factory default and allow you to redo you OS. But the od thing is the bios is seeing the drive as a 40GB. Daka.

12-24-2002, 08:47 PM	#22
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	daka, yeah, ive tried clearing the cmos a few times, no help...ive also tried auto detecting it through bios, it still said 34gb...i have my os on my primary hard drive, which is actually being reported as the wrong size also, but i dont care about that...so i dont care about the recovery thing i will look for the zero out option now

12-24-2002, 08:48 PM	#23
Daka Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 31	Abit forum You can always check there Faq's and user forums. http://forum.abit-usa.com/index.php? sometimes it helps if you can see if someone had the same issue. Daka

12-24-2002, 08:51 PM	#24
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	also, after i partition and format the drive through the wd program.... i go into winxp and try to get into the drive and an error comes up and says "the drive is not formatted, would u like to format now" and when i click yes it says 31.4gb :/ but in the wd program i supposedly partitioned and formatted the drive into 1 76gb partition

12-24-2002, 08:55 PM	#25
mallar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 60	i can't find the zero option thingy.......but, it only takes like half a second to format and partition an 80gb drive, could that be a problem?

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