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Old 10-16-2002, 05:46 AM   #1
Gilgamel Avamar
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Default Prismatic weapons no longer proccing Avatar?


Tull made a post on the glade about prismatic and possibly primal weapons no longer proccing avatar. It seems on test they now proc Vengeance II instead. Thoughts?

Gilg

PS: Here's a link to Tull's original post:
forums.interealms.com/ran...adid=11787
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Old 10-16-2002, 06:32 AM   #2
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It's rumour. A guide told me it wasn't changed. Was talking to him in the test chat room.

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Old 10-16-2002, 09:39 AM   #3
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Ya, its good stuff, f melee!
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Old 10-16-2002, 10:56 AM   #4
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Highly Unlikely, current proc is

100ATK
100STR
100DEX
100AGI

Vengence II is

10ATK

woo, it'd proc Grim aura =p way too much of a reduction, It'ed need to proc Vengence 20, so avatar without stats if they wanted to nerf it and It'd have to last a lot longer than 6 mins =p

but make zone harder, make point for going to zone not there that'd be good =)

on a note though if they changed the proc to a longer lasting highish ATK bonus, maybe I could get a prismatic to stack with my primal proc!! >))
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Old 10-16-2002, 01:34 PM   #5
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Vengeance isn't a proc.
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Old 10-16-2002, 08:15 PM   #6
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The thread further goes on to explain how the sleeper has not been awakened on test, thusly they have no prismatic weapons (only primal). So there is no way for prismatic to have been changed on test, it doesnt exist there yet. Testers have reported there are no changes to Primal.
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Old 10-16-2002, 09:54 PM   #7
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Vengeance isn't a proc.
er, well Sanity Warp is an enchie spell, but somehow my blade procs it =p

just needs to be on a weapon with (Combat) as the spell type rather than (Worn)

Aura of Battle is a good example its a click and a worn, I'm sure its not hard to make it a proc if they wanted to rather than a worn effect.
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Old 10-17-2002, 03:33 AM   #8
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Remembering from my Ranger Sources (Rangers Glade), reading from more advanced rangers (including that Sean ranger guy from FoH), the Vengeance line is a stackable +ATK line of worn effects. Just like Flowing thoughts, except Vengeance seems to scale up a lot more than Flowing Thoughts. So judging from this information, and other information researched and given, you could collect lots of Vengeance items and boost your ATK way up, just like you could do with Flowing Thoughts.

Go to Rangers Glade and search for Vengeance and Innate ATK Cap (or something like that) in the general discussion area and find Sean's post for more details... I think...


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Old 10-17-2002, 03:35 AM   #9
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Like I said.. It's not a proc.. it's a worn effect.
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Old 10-17-2002, 10:03 AM   #10
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Like I said.. It's not a proc.. it's a worn effect.
er right,

The warrior epic blue blade that was changed from a proc to a worn effect, the same could be done with vengence in reverse I'm pretty damn sure of it

All it is, is how its assigned to an item, just because for example Vengence is currently only found in a worn type doesnt mean that It could not be used as a proc

Saying "its not a proc its a worn effect" is nothing more than stating its currently impliemented state and has little relevence to the fact that a *new* or *changed* item could have Vengence, or in fact any other current (worn) or any spell effect as a proc.
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Old 10-17-2002, 12:24 PM   #11
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Submina is right,

Just because you read the FoH boards and see VT loot with worn Vengence doesn't mean a weapon couldn't just as easily proc it.

Thanks.
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Old 10-17-2002, 12:38 PM   #12
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It could be done as a proc or an activated effect, but... why?
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Old 10-17-2002, 01:22 PM   #13
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I don't read FoH. I am against them and everyone who hypes about them. Even more so after they deemed everyone outside their guild a bunch of no bodies who were all lemmings and didn't really understand the game and its mechanics and how to play.

But I got the Vengeance explanations from Rangers Glade, not from FoH members from my memory. I'm just giving reference to how someone from FoH used the items with Vengeance on them to add up to his theory on an Innate ATK cap. I did read somewhere on the Glade with a listing of the effects of all Vengeance effects from 1 to 10.

There are more than just FoH who get Vengeance items from Vex Thal, after all. Not sure if things drop with the effects on them elsewhere.


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Old 10-18-2002, 03:50 AM   #14
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Let me know when you see an item with "Flowing Thought V (Combat)" on it.

Let me know when you see an item with "Aura of Battle (Combat)" on it.

Vengeance isn't a proc. It's a worn effect. Until you see an item that says Combat on it. It's still only a worn effect.
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Old 10-18-2002, 03:55 AM   #15
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So in your mind....FoH is the only guild to get the items with vengeance on it? Ask any Magister person......Vengeance is a worn effect....
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Old 10-18-2002, 04:08 AM   #16
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Let me know when you see an item with "Aura of Battle (Combat)" on it.
Well there aren't any items that combat proc Aura of Battle but there are items that are right click Aura of Battle.

AllaKhazam's isn't working for me so I can't find which items have the click version but a couple do. Yeah, most of them are worn effects but 1 or 2 are right clicked Aura of Battle.

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Old 10-18-2002, 04:14 AM   #17
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Prismatic don't drop on test, cause we haven't freed the sleeper (not from a lack of capability though, we've farmed 4th warder). Primal are unchanged. That's all I know. Only primal drop on test, not prismatic.

Sounds like another "JBOOTS ARE SLOWER!!" rumor.

No one on test even HAS a prismatic weapon.


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There's your answer guys and girls. From the thread on Rangers Glade. We can all calm down and relax, unless the changes are on Legends Test server. You'll have to ask someone from there then.


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Old 10-18-2002, 04:23 AM   #18
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unless one of you is getting one of these anytime in the near future...in the words of cartman...QUITCHERBITCHEN!



~Greell~
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Old 10-18-2002, 04:33 AM   #19
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the shield from dracho is a click aura of battle
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Old 10-18-2002, 05:29 AM   #20
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As is SK ToV shield and I believe Pauldrons of Ferocity.
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Old 10-18-2002, 08:04 AM   #21
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Vengeance isn't a proc. It's a worn effect. Until you see an item that says Combat on it. It's still only a worn effect.
Do you realise what talking hypothetically is ?

The whole point of what I've been saying is its *possible* to have whatever effect as a proc.

Doesnt matter if its atm only a spell, click or worn effect, its possibly to, if VI wanted it to be, a proc.

Saying "currently the item exists only in the form" is uselessly stating the obvious, I'm saying "it could exist in this form if it was chosen to be made that way"

comprendez?
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Old 10-18-2002, 08:59 AM   #22
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I would come out and say "If there's any line of effects that are listed as 'such and such 1-10' then its more than likely a worn effect..."

But then people would come out and point me in the direction of the Yaulp series. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT="">


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