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Old 05-12-2004, 03:22 PM   #26
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Yeah, cuz killing civilians in the process of "Leveling certain places in Iraq" is just peanuts compared to beheading one civilian U.S. contractor on video.
Yeah, it is peanuts Fanon. Give the civilians a choice. Throw out your fucking scumbags or die like pigs. If we were to go in, slowly hack off some totally innocent civilians heads while they thrash and scream, and tape it, then it would be the same. Until then, it ain't even close. Quit even comparing it.

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Old 05-12-2004, 03:37 PM   #27
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^^^

Gotta love the relative moralism so many adopt during wartime.
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Old 05-12-2004, 04:06 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Hormadrune
Gotta love the relative moralism so many adopt during wartime.
Especially from the left.




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Old 05-12-2004, 04:14 PM   #29
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Z- I would like to hear one example of relative moralism from the left.
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Old 05-12-2004, 04:25 PM   #30
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Z- I would like to hear one example of relative moralism from the left.
You are the left. Are you able to answer? Of course you are.
Go ahead Bumbleroot. Nobody's looking.




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Old 05-12-2004, 04:41 PM   #31
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Zolmaz, you gonna answer the question or just drool on yourself like usual?
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Old 05-12-2004, 04:42 PM   #32
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Z- I asked you to name one. I don't think you can because of two reasons. First you have no clue what the term means. Second the left generally doesn't deal in relative moralism.
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:04 PM   #33
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Relative moralism?

Stupid anti-American pussies.

Understand this. They (terrorists, by any definition you wanna choose) attacked US. Yep, they attacked us first, unprovoked, destroyed innocent civilians just because we didn't follow their beliefs. Did they allow 'innocents' out of the towers/planes before they killed them all? FUCK NO!

How is us, giving a city/town/block/apartment building/whatever the options of giving up our enemies or being destroyed, relative moralism. It's self preservation, and country preservation.

An analogy, that I'm sure Luri will pick apart for piddly stupid reasons instead of just following the fucking premise.

You live in an apartment with 100 people. 20 of them are murderers. The police come and say "give up the murderers or we will level the place" Would you give up the murderers? Yep. Don't want to hear any 'they don't believe like us, these are our brothers bullshit either. Self preservation vs. total annhilation is pretty strong motivator.

I never used to understand why Zolmaz would rant and spew forth rancid comments about so many of you, now I understand. It's like arguing logic with a stubborn 3 year old, when everything is pretty flowers and hugs. Nick would still be alive today if he just would have brought flowers and shook hands and let the French take care of him...

Stupid fucking pansies. Get on the boat or get off, but either way, stop bashing the US for trying to protect itself from destruction.

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Old 05-12-2004, 06:08 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by bumbleroot
Z- I asked you to name one. I don't think you can because of two reasons. First you have no clue what the term means. Second the left generally doesn't deal in relative moralism.
Oops huh?

Name one what>? Wrong thread bumbleshit..

Originally Posted by Hormadrunk
Zolmaz, you gonna answer the question or just drool on yourself like usual?
In this thread you've asked me no questions Mr. Communist. But you could
edit one of your posts to make it seem that way. Watch the time edit tag.

Bam! 2-socialists in one shot. Makes you wonder who posts from these accounts..



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Old 05-12-2004, 06:10 PM   #35
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Vulpes,

Using your own analogy....

First, a limo owned by the Prez pulls up, and three of those murderers leave the apartment building and vanish into the night, never to be seen again.

And why is that again? Oh its national security, and YOU dont need to know.

Too many unanswered questions.

You can love the country, and NOT love the leader.
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:12 PM   #36
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..:: Quoting bumbleroot ::..
Z- I would like to hear one example of relative moralism from the left.
..:: End Quote ::..
You are the left. Are you able to answer? Of course you are.
Go ahead Bumbleroot. Nobody's looking.




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Old 05-12-2004, 06:14 PM   #37
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Originally Posted by Vulpes
How is us, giving a city/town/block/apartment building/whatever the options of giving up our enemies or being destroyed, relative moralism. It's self preservation, and country preservation.
Perhaps you should have thought about "self-preservation" prior to jumping on the bandwagon for a war of choice. Just remember who chose to attack Iraq. I didn't see the Iraqi army on US shores.
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:14 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by Chiteng
You can love the country, and NOT love the leader.
And which country do you love Chiteng?

Tell us.



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Old 05-12-2004, 06:18 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by Lurikeen
Perhaps you should have thought about "self-preservation" prior to jumping on the bandwagon for a war of choice. Just remember who chose to attack Iraq. I didn't see the Iraqi army on US shores.
I never saw Japanese or Germans on American shores either.

About this Pre-emptive crap from your party about Bush stopping 9/11,
does this work for the future? Or the past only?



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Old 05-12-2004, 06:19 PM   #40
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Chiteng,
I gotta ask.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? How the hell can you manage to bring a bash Bush post into everything? Are you trying to imply somehow that Bush is letting terrorists in Iraq go? Let me say this really slow....I don't give a flying fuck what limo did what, when, why. I care about our soldiers dying and our civilians dying because they are using civilians and our own morals against us.

You say the only way to win a war is to kill people and WIN, yet you are going to vote for a namby pamby wishy washy "i don't really know what I think' Kerry rather than someone who at least has ideals? Just because he didn't come find you or your wife a job personally doesn't make him evil. Get some fucking balls man and think about who you really want making DECISIONS in the oval office.

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Old 05-12-2004, 06:21 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Zolmaz Zo'Boto
I never saw Japanese or Germans on American shores either.
Yeah, well that's because you don't know history. Do you know where the Allusion islands are?
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:24 PM   #42
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It's typical Lurikeen.

I did think about self-preservation. Obviously, I understand it far better than you. See, self-preservation means killing someone BEFORE they kill you. After Iraq did something AGAIN is a little late, isn't it? Besides, it's a moot point. FUCK IRAQ. Bush only made up excuses to go in there to appease you whiney ass 'I can make great predictions after it happens' people. He went in to fight a war on terror in a theatre we knew, and knew we could win.

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Old 05-12-2004, 06:25 PM   #43
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Chill Vulpes,
They only want to piss you off. Its their own pathetic goal in life.
Remember, they live in a small pathetic liberal universe.

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Old 05-12-2004, 06:28 PM   #44
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Allusion islands
You mean Aleutian? oh history buff.

They are islands forming a string off Alaska. Much closer to Japan than continental US. Real stretch there.

Tard

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Old 05-12-2004, 06:28 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Vulpes
Obviously, I understand it far better than you. See, self-preservation means killing someone BEFORE they kill you.
Perhaps you don't understand it all? I think so. Self-preservation is a natural tendancy to ensure we aren't destroyed. Killing another individual may seem like a solution, but there is always another person right behind the one we killed willing to take our heads.

Perpetuating violence is not the answer.
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:28 PM   #46
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Yeah, well that's because you don't know history. Do you know where the Allusion islands are?
Yes. Do you know the states?

Talk about spin.
With every post you do damage to your party Lurikeen. Happy days huh?



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Old 05-12-2004, 06:30 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Vulpes
You mean Aleutian? oh history buff.

They are islands forming a string off Alaska. Much closer to Japan than continental US. Real stretch there.

Tard

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So, perhaps you can explain to your good buddy Zolmaz how the Japanese occupied several of the Islands in the chain?
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:32 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by Lurikeen
Perpetuating violence is not the answer.
Only against Bush right?

You're another pussy weened by a feminist. How did you manage to hide it
for so long?

Btw, Your bashing? Lame.
Find new material.




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Old 05-12-2004, 06:38 PM   #49
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So, perhaps you can explain to your good buddy Zolmaz how the Japanese occupied several of the Islands in the chain?
Perhaps you can tell me when the Japs landed on American soil in the states?

And no, annex doesn't count. Sorry Luri, spin stops here. Especially since your confused about where
America actually is on the globe. Map? whats a map?


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Old 05-12-2004, 06:38 PM   #50
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Zolmaz, your trolling. When you really want to debate stop acting so retarded.
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