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Old 05-07-2004, 06:23 PM   #1
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Old 05-07-2004, 08:31 PM   #2
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Big difference there Max. Those who captured and killed people in Iraq are not known if they are prisoners. Those people we have in jails in Iraq could be anyone. They are held basically on the word of other Iraqis. And we all know how reliable Iraqis are nowadays.
There is no known connection with the prisoners we abused and those that may have captured, tortured and/or abused others. There is no known proof that any of those prisoners we abused were guilty of anything. They simply were reported by other Iraqis.
Another thing, justifying these actions does more harm than good. For all possible reasons you cons have been saying we invaded Iraq. To free Iraqis from their torturous leader, the Iraqis see us that way now. Winning this war and the hearts and minds of Iraqis may be near impossible now. That means that the entire year, reconstruction efforts, planning, and any progress we made and any money we spent may have been all to naught because this was allowed to happen. Trying to justify it is both late and useless. The best action would be to show some real teeth and actually do something meaningful. For that reason and that reason alone Rumsfeld should go.
Personally I don't hold him fully accountable for this, but I think the perception needs to be presented to the Iraqis that we have taken some strong action and this would be it. I personally don't think this merits Rumsfeld's firing but as I said before, for perceptions I feel it must be done.
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Old 05-07-2004, 08:40 PM   #3
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Old 05-07-2004, 08:49 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by bumbleroot
Big difference there Max.

Those who captured and killed people in Iraq are not known if they are
prisoners. Those people we have in jails in Iraq could be anyone.

They are held basically on the word of other Iraqis. And we all know how
reliable Iraqis are nowadays.

There is no known connection with the prisoners we abused and those that
may have captured, tortured and/or abused others.

There is no known proof that any of those prisoners we abused were guilty of
anything. They simply were reported by other Iraqis.


Another thing,
justifying these actions does more harm than good.




For all possible reasons you cons have been saying we invaded Iraq. To free Iraqis from their torturous leader, the Iraqis see us that way now.

Winning this war and the hearts and minds of Iraqis may be near impossible now.

That means that the entire year, reconstruction efforts, planning, and any
progress we made and any money we spent may have been all to naught
because this was allowed to happen.

Trying to justify it is both late and useless. The best action would be to show some real teeth and actually do something meaningful.

For that reason and that reason alone Rumsfeld should go.

Personally I don't hold him fully accountable for this, but
I think the perception needs to be presented to the Iraqis that we have taken
some strong action and this would be it.


I personally don't think this merits Rumsfeld's firing but as I said before, for perceptions I feel it must be done.
Strait from the horses mouth. How could "anybody, argue with such knowledge
of the world. Lets hear it for Bubbleroot. HIP HIP HORAY!



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Old 05-07-2004, 08:51 PM   #5
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Those who captured and killed people in Iraq are not known if they are prisoners.
I typed too fast, meant to say perpetrators instead of prisoners.
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