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Old 05-05-2004, 02:47 PM   #51
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Zolmaz and Trith, you both have stated "the Media" has a liberal bias, then simply point out a couple news organizations you believe to be "liberal". That is hardly proof. Now, you both are obviously entitled to your opinions, but don't try to pass off your unfounded opinions as proof. I get pissed off watching CNN thinking that they are moving more towards the right, but that is my perception of CNN from where I stand politically.

Our perceptions of the media are clouded by our own strong political views. I think (my opinion) the media tries to cater to the broadest political spectrum possible in order to get ratings. Some will have a clear leaning to the right, while others will lean left. If they were all lefties, then I don't think they would be making the amounts of money they do.

Anyway, what I would accept as proof is data breaking out percentages of mainstream news organizations that represent one political ideology over another.
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Old 05-05-2004, 02:55 PM   #52
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Anyway, what I would accept as proof is data breaking out percentages of mainstream news organizations that represent one political ideology over another.
Which is something you will never get..it's journalistic suicide..which is also sad because CNN and the NYT doesn't want the populace to know they have gone far left and fox doesn't want to be pegged as gone right...

Would be interesting and I think it would prove Zol and I 100% true but it will never happen.
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Old 05-05-2004, 03:38 PM   #53
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Lurikeen,
Which part of my post didn't you understand?

In fact, find a speach from President Bush. Any speach. Read and study that
speach, it might take you about 10-20 min. Then go to various newspapers
like the NYT and the Washington post and the seatle times, and the kansas tribune etc.

Compare the stories from the actual speach for yourself.
Then tell me there is no bias. Take your time.
Are you afraid of realizing the bias, or just ignoring it?
I'm sure you have time to do this.



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Old 05-05-2004, 05:44 PM   #54
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Originally Posted by Trith
Which is something you will never get..it's journalistic suicide..which is also sad because CNN and the NYT doesn't want the populace to know they have gone far left and fox doesn't want to be pegged as gone right...

Would be interesting and I think it would prove Zol and I 100% true but it will never happen.
Trith, do you see how self-affirming your statements are? There is no objectivity in what you are presenting.

Zolmaz, you are just rambling my friend.
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Old 05-05-2004, 06:55 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by Lurikeen
Zolmaz, you are just rambling my friend.
Don't accuse me of what you are guilty of.


Here, I'll post it again Lurikeen....

..:: Quote ::..
In fact, find a speach from President Bush. Any speach. Read and study that
speach, it might take you about 10-20 min. Then go to various newspapers
like the NYT and the Washington post and the seatle times, and the kansas tribune etc.

Compare the stories from the actual speach for yourself.
Then tell me there is no bias. Take your time.

..:: End Quote ::..
How is this rambling again?
I challange you. Are you up to it?

You're the one who claims that the Liberal media isn't bias.
Prove it to me.


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Old 05-05-2004, 07:02 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by Zolmaz Zo'Boto
Don't accuse me of what you are guilty of.


Here, I'll post it again Lurikeen....

..:: Quote ::..
In fact, find a speach from President Bush. Any speach. Read and study that
speach, it might take you about 10-20 min. Then go to various newspapers
like the NYT and the Washington post and the seatle times, and the kansas tribune etc.

Compare the stories from the actual speach for yourself.
Then tell me there is no bias. Take your time.

..:: End Quote ::..
How is this rambling again?
I challange you. Are you up to it?

You're the one who claims that the Liberal media isn't bias.
Prove it to me.


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Yeah, nice "little" misquote there Zolmaz.

You are rambling and not making much sense. I haven't said "the liberal media isn't bias". I haven't said anything about the media other than the major players are trying to appeal to the middle ground for the ratings.

It is nice to have our own in-house chimp, like Zolmaz.
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Old 05-05-2004, 07:11 PM   #57
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So you refuse huh Lurikeen?
And you called me a chimp. How cute.

Only shows that you know the bias, and your refusing to acknowledge it
by other means. Like say, inflicting insults?



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Old 05-05-2004, 07:13 PM   #58
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Originally Posted by Lurikeen
Yeah, nice "little" misquote there Zolmaz.
What did I misquote? I quoted you. How is that a misquote?




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Old 05-05-2004, 07:14 PM   #59
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Originally Posted by Zolmaz Zo'Boto
So you refuse huh Lurikeen?
And you called me a chimp. How cute.

Only shows that you know the bias, and your refusing to acknowledge it
by other means. Like say, inflicting insults?



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Refuse what? To respond to your gross "misquote"? You are barely coherent. Referring to you as a "chimp" is actually being nice. Perhaps you could actually frame your arguments in some sort of reconizable structure. I mean, anyone would have to guess that you are a student of english as a second language.
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Old 05-05-2004, 07:23 PM   #60
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Originally Posted by Lurikeen
Refuse what? To respond to your gross "misquote"? You are barely coherent. Referring to you as a "chimp" is actually being nice. Perhaps you could actually frame your arguments in some sort of reconizable structure. I mean, anyone would have to guess that you are a student of english as a second language.
More insults. Gee wiz wally, I didn't see that one coming.



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Old 05-05-2004, 07:37 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by Zolmaz Zo'Boto
More insults. Gee wiz wally, I didn't see that one coming.
Are you trying to say english is your native tongue? I thought you spoke French, being a French-Canadian.
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Old 05-05-2004, 07:49 PM   #62
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So,
Whats your point Luri.
I'm all eye's.


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Old 05-05-2004, 07:52 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by Zolmaz Zo'Boto
I'm all eye's.


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You are? Good thing I don't skull fuck.
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Old 05-05-2004, 08:06 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by Lurikeen
You are? Good thing I don't skull fuck.
Why are you insulting me so much? I've been looking forward to our debates.
I don't deserve insults Lurikeen. And you know it.

I haven't insulted you since you were back.
Knock it off already.




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Old 05-05-2004, 08:12 PM   #65
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Originally Posted by Zolmaz Zo'Boto
Why are you insulting me so much? I've been looking forward to our debates.
I don't deserve insults Lurikeen. And you know it.

I haven't insulted you since you were back.
Knock it off already.




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I haven't insulted you, buddy. Have I? Alll I stated is that I don't skull fuck.
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Old 05-05-2004, 08:40 PM   #66
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Originally Posted by Lurikeen
I haven't insulted you, buddy. Have I? Alll I stated is that I don't skull fuck.
That is an insult And you know it.
And don't call me buddy or i'll start calling you buttrice.



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Old 05-05-2004, 09:12 PM   #67
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Originally Posted by Zolmaz Zo'Boto
That is an insult And you know it.
And don't call me buddy or i'll start calling you buttrice.



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Old 05-05-2004, 09:18 PM   #68
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Hey Luri..I have a question for ya. What do you think of FoxNews and Drudge?
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Old 05-05-2004, 09:23 PM   #69
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Oh, you are such the mistreated cretin! Oh, dear lord!
Great. Now i'm a cretin. Oh man. This is to much, a cretin i've been called.
Dear GOD what shall I do. I've been labeled a Cretin! Help me God.
My life has ended. I've been called the word of all words. How can I exist??

*Fall's to the ground and starts rolling around flailing arms everywhere*

Dear GOD! I've been labeled a cretin!

*Falls to the ground and starts kicking legs and screaming for someone called mother*


CRETIN! How could I possibly exist after such an accusation, Dear GOD!


Falls to the floor and laugh's uncontrolabably *aaahahaaaaaaa/burp ok that screwed up my laugh! Fuck it.




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Old 05-05-2004, 09:30 PM   #70
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Originally Posted by Trith
Hey Luri..I have a question for ya. What do you think of FoxNews and Drudge?
First off, I can't believe you would even try to equate Dudge with FOX. That only shows how ignorant you are with regard as to what a serious news network is all about.

Secondly, and finally, I have a lot of respect for the FOX news network. I think they have done well to catering to the most conservative of the nation and it takes guts to setup a business that is so very exclusive in a world where ratings make the money.
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Old 05-05-2004, 09:51 PM   #71
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First off, I can't believe you would even try to equate Dudge with FOX.
Yea Trith. Whats your problem man. get with the program man.
Luri knows fox like hunting foxes man. you know man? like, peace dude,
Luri knows where the cow pastures are man. like, He knows where the
prime stuff is man. heh. how cool is that huh? Shrooms man. how cool is that man.

Originally Posted by Lurikeen
That only shows how ignorant you are with regard as to what a serious news network is all about.
I've heard of networks man. How do they work man?
just asking man.

Originally Posted by Lurikeen
Secondly, and finally, I have a lot of respect for the FOX news network. I think they have done well to catering to the most conservative of the nation and it takes guts to setup a business that is so very exclusive in a world where ratings make the money.
Thanks man. It took me years to get a fox. good thing she's sleeping though.
Is networking like kissing or something man? thats cool. thanks man. She's good at setting people up when rent comes due though man.
she likes the other things better though man. heh cool man.
Party on man.


Cheech out dudes.


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Old 05-06-2004, 04:42 AM   #72
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Secondly, and finally, I have a lot of respect for the FOX news network. I think they have done well to catering to the most conservative of the nation and it takes guts to setup a business that is so very exclusive in a world where ratings make the money.
Thanks for validating my point then about CNN and NYT.
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Back to the topic of this thread: Bush did apologize and Rummy still has a job.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119156,00.html
Quoted from Article:
WASHINGTON Ś President Bush on Thursday apologized for the "humiliation" some Iraqi prisoners suffered at the hands of U.S. troops as he said that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (search) is safe in his job.
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Old 05-06-2004, 11:06 AM   #74
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"I told him I was sorry for the humiliation suffered by the Iraqi prisoners and the humiliation suffered by their families," Bush said.
That is not an apology to the people of Iraq or to Americans. However, at least he said "sorry" to an Arab.
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Old 05-06-2004, 11:16 AM   #75
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Please, who are you kidding? He could bow down and kiss the feet of every single Iraqi and you still wouldn't give him any credit.
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