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Old 04-28-2004, 02:31 PM   #1
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Default Negroponte: Iran-Contra lapdog in Iraq?

Sen. Christopher J. Dodd, D-Ct., noted differences that he had with Negroponte when the diplomat was ambassador to Honduras in the 1980s. "Those differences stem largely from a lack of candor about what the U.S. was and wasn't doing in Central America in the conflict at that time," Dodd said. "And although I intend to support and strongly support this nomination when it comes to a vote in this committee, and later on the Senate floor, I want to make one point especially clear: That same issue -- candor -- in my view, is going to be critical with respect to continued support for U.S. policies in Iraq." Dodd told Negroponte that if the administration's policies are not working, "it'll be your duty to the American people to say so, and to say so very clearly and without any hesitation so that we can make course corrections before it's too late."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,118272,00.html
It is a real travesty that Negroponte is even being considered for the job of running Iraq. Just take a look here for some information about "Colonel Death". If even a fraction of the related news articles are correct, then Negroponte should not be getting this job.

Another issue is why Bush would even want to put this man into such a position? Anyone remember what happened in Nicaragua? The Reagan/Bush administration supported a floundering dictatorship (the Somoza regime) against the Socialist Sandinistas. Needless to say, the Somozas were brutal and there is just no way that Negroponte (or others in the current Bush administration) didn't know what the Contras stood for and who they had supported in the past.

This move by Bush, coupled with the weakening of de-Baathification, appears to be pointing to a move towards installing a regime in Iraq that will be nothing more than a military dictatorship reminiscient of the Somoza regime, or perhaps one that resembles the "softer" dictatorship we now see in Pakistan.
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Old 04-28-2004, 02:33 PM   #2
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Welcome back- huzzah!
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Old 04-28-2004, 09:03 PM   #3
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Holy shit! It's Lurikeen!

I knew you'd be back. This place kind of grows on you... like a foot-fungus, or benign tumor that's just really unsightly.
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Old 04-28-2004, 09:05 PM   #4
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shh! We don't speak openly of our parasites Indasha. =) It is good to feel so welcomed back, though.
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Old 04-29-2004, 11:36 AM   #5
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Negroponte's nomination appeared on track for easy confirmation. No senator voiced opposition, and several said they expected unanimous approval in the committee vote set for Thursday and overwhelming confirmation by the full Senate.


Maybe he is a poor choice I don't really know, but if he is, wouldnt Democratic Senators be blocking this nomination?
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Old 04-29-2004, 11:57 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by crimsonedge
Maybe he is a poor choice I don't really know, but if he is, wouldnt Democratic Senators be blocking this nomination?
I wish I could believe that the Democrats would block the nomination out of principle. Honestly, since the Democrats became the minority in the house and senate they have done very little on principle and a whole lot of limped-wrist, spineless, dealing with little to no wheeling. (I may have to trademark that last statement.)

I mean, take a look at Dodd's statement again, "Those differences stem largely from a lack of candor about what the U.S. was and wasn't doing in Central America in the conflict at that time". Then why support Negroponte if he wasn't truthfull about what was going on in Honduras during the 80s? I'll tell you why, because Dodd and most of the Democrats have been beaten by the majority and most of them are acting as if they have "battered wife syndrome"!
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Old 04-29-2004, 01:10 PM   #7
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So what made you come back? I thought you said this forum sucked? Are you an attention whore?
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Old 04-29-2004, 01:17 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by kanibaal
Are you an attention whore?
No more than you are.
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Old 04-29-2004, 01:20 PM   #9
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Its called playing both sides of the fence. They vote yes, but get their objections on record in the media. If it blows up in 5 years, they come back and say "I was against him... look it up".

All in a days work for your average career politician.
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Old 04-29-2004, 01:25 PM   #10
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Well you left with an elitist attitude acting like this forum is just flames and useless because nobody posted how you wanted them to. You flamed people just as much if not more than anyone else. Seemed you couldnt take the pace that you yourself set...

Now you are back. Get your ass served to you at the other place?
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Old 04-29-2004, 02:08 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by kanibaal
Seemed you couldnt take the pace that you yourself set...
It is touching how much you care about my return and before you retort that you could care less, ask yourself why you are even mentioning it or trying to make it an issue? Perhaps you are just trying to derail this thread because you can't comment on the topic? Ineed, if anyone looks to be the attention whore it is you.
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Old 04-29-2004, 02:16 PM   #12
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No reason to harp on why Lurikeen returned, I am just glad he did. I doubt you will find us in agreement on much on these boards, but he does contribute.

Its also noticeable that he hasnt risen to the bait yet and started dropping personal insults without provocation. Good job dude.
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Old 04-29-2004, 04:30 PM   #13
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I want to revist a theme that Chiteng once introduced. This section of the board has become nothing more than a rat hole!

There is no longer intellectual debate! There is no one actually providing reasons for one particular belief over another!

Most of what is poseted now is nothing more than flames!

I am done with it!

I have found that there are other places, like USENET, that offer more intelligent dialogue than what some here can even pretend to offer!

I bid you all farewell. I will not be back. Night night
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Old 04-29-2004, 05:17 PM   #14
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I will take your response as being that you aren't able to actually address the topic of this thread, Kanibaal.

If it makes you feel better, I will be sure to post another 4,900 or so posts just for you.
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Old 04-29-2004, 05:37 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Lurikeen
Honestly, since the Democrats became the minority in the house and senate they have done very little on principle
This section isnt quite right:

Sen. James Jeffords' decision to leave the Republican Party and become an independent effectively gave Democrats a 51-49 majority and control of the once evenly divided Senate

But still, if he is a bad choice, they should block him, having the majority to start with in the Senate which confirms nominations should give them a great start.
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Old 04-29-2004, 06:13 PM   #16
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not able to address the thread? I could but I really dont care.

I dont want to start a whole thread to feed your hunger for attention. JK Luri, but you disrespected the people who post here and then appear back like nothing ever happened. So like I said, dont shit where you eat.
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Old 04-29-2004, 06:31 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by kanibaal
Luri, but you disrespected the people who post here and then appear back like nothing ever happened. So like I said, dont shit where you eat.
Disrespected them? I think I made a promise to Zelgadis (or was it Kiebler?) that I would do my best not to flame anymore. When I ceased, the flames coming at me didn't cease, of course I didn't expect such should, but it certainly gave me pause to think about where Steam Vent was going and my options.

This so-called "pace" I set, but "couldn't keep up with" actually is the furthest from the truth. Not only can I keep the pace, but I certainly can add more fuel to the fire, but why? Chiteng was correct in that I became very frustrated with the outright stupid flames. I mean come on! Anyone can flame, but actually responding to postings with some sembelance of intelligence requires much more thought than a bland "You're a fucktard!"

I am guilty. I admit it and don't even shrink back from the fact that I am one of the chief flamers on the board. However, I do think I was mistaken in my tact and have worked to reverse my past behavior.

Disrespected the people who post here with my "farewell" post? No, not at all. Did I point out what stench I found in front of me? Yes, I did. Was I tired of it? You bet. Even one who participates in the "hack and wack" of flaming can get tired of the whole thing. You want to criticize me for that? Oh, no, your motive is to rub my face in my "farewell" posting. You want to crow about my return as some sort of failure on my part. Or, is it that you think I owe the flamers in this forum an apology for participating in the Vomitorium? You really should think a little harder about your position. Your propensity to seek negative attention is shinning through.
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Old 04-30-2004, 01:24 AM   #18
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not able to address the thread? I could but I really dont care.
Tell Ogmuk to give you a prize Serge. You're the 5 billionth person online that has posted they don't care.
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Old 04-30-2004, 06:43 AM   #19
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Luri, np man, just letting you know what you did was stupid. Just surprises me you expected something other than flames on the emarr board... buck up and deal with it.
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