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Old 03-31-2004, 08:44 AM   #1
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Default Bodies of U.S. civilians strung from bridge in Iraq

Just saw video from this on the news:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html
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Old 03-31-2004, 08:50 AM   #2
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That's pretty sick, but people have been doing this sort of thing for hundreds of years.

Still no place for it in todays world.

I'm just waiting for the first of the Bush supporters to say "And now you see why we had to invade"
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Old 03-31-2004, 08:51 AM   #3
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And now you see why i would of prefered nuclear weapons were used. Much cleaner on our side really.
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Old 03-31-2004, 08:55 AM   #4
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Yeah. Fuck the fact it would have killed thousands of innocent civilians.
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Old 03-31-2004, 08:59 AM   #5
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You mean like the ones hanging from the bridge?
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:00 AM   #6
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Unless the film was taken in a point in time before the invasion, people would have no reason to say "This is why we had to have the invasion...", because Iraqi Anti-American Invasion supporters are only retaliating to what the invasion has done. It's all about war.
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:06 AM   #7
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You mean like the ones hanging from the bridge?
Or do you mean like the civillians who dragged the bodies through the street and hung them there?
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:11 AM   #8
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Can't believe war has "rules" you're supposed to beat the fuck out of the enemy. Then again this is only if the whole country was totally against you, all the civilians, their dogs, cats were all cooked up in one small town with the whole idea of trying to kill us, I wouldn't see why you would have to hold anything back.
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:12 AM   #9
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If you dont have the stomach for war, then dont have one.

I am sick of this admin trying to play nice, with people who only goal in life is to kill us all.

Reprisals WOULD work. But you wont see any. The USA is too pussy for the true nature of war. But dont worry, the average grunt on the ground, will get the message. You might start hearing of 'incidents' when the newsmen are not around.

That is a true eye opener Oggie.
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I thought it was made clear that the Iraqi forces played by no rules when it came to war when...

They were showing torture videos and pictures of them beating up the invasion troops...

They pulled out the anti-war people and started taking in their help by using them as human shields... (I heard the anti-war people wanted to do it anyway)
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:20 AM   #11
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The footage of this bizarre happening in Fallujah looks much like the footage shot in Mogadishu, 1993, and we all know what happened after that, which is a reason why US news hasn't been broadcasting it immediately, they say.
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:23 AM   #12
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If you dont have the stomach for war, then dont have one
Man, I'm gonna have to start calling you Bullchit, since that's all you ever spew. It is one thing to do what needs to be done in a war, but it's quite another to revel in the slaughter of others. Dragging corpses through the streets and hanging them on a bridge for all to see is NOT warfare, it's fucking sick.
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:27 AM   #13
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I really dont give a crap what you think about it Wildane.

I think we should round up 400 Iraqi nationals and broadcast that they will all be executed at dawn, if the perpetrators of this incident are not turn in.

And if they are not turned in...KILL THEM.

THAT is war, Wildane. If you dont know that, why dont you go enlist?
You will learn.

I did =/
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:33 AM   #14
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They should have nuked the fucking place and turned it into a glass parking lot. Should have done Afghanistan the same way.

As for civilian casulties, that's what these people were. Whomever did this should be made to pay.
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:34 AM   #15
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Reprisals WOULD work. But you wont see any. The USA is too pussy for the true nature of war
Well, actually, the reason we won't get down and dirty and take retribution for this is that we are the most powerful country in the world. The rest of the world hates us, at least the vast majority of it, and most of our allies side with us because they have no other choice. The closest thing to a superpower after us is communist China, and most of our allies are unwilling to take that leap. Yes, we've done wonderful things for countries in trouble, and no, its not fair that those countries hate us more for it, but the world isn't fair. Nobody ever said it was.

The fact is, people hate us because we have all the power and all the money and as our presidents have shown, we're largely not afraid to use it to push other countries around to our point of view. The moment we start doing stuff like punishing the people in Iraq for doing those things, other countries who hate and fear us will only get worse. The fear will be presented that maybe they're next. Fear does wonderful things to a mob mentallity...namely, it makes the mob lash out at the thing it is afraid of, in this case us.

And so, we have to sit and take it, in the interest of keeping the level of fear and hate as low as can be. Eventually, it will get to the boiling point and we'll have a real world war on our hands, but there's no reason to rush that.
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Originally Posted by Chiteng
I really dont give a crap what you think about it Wildane.

I think we should round up 400 Iraqi nationals and broadcast that they will all be executed at dawn, if the perpetrators of this incident are not turn in.

And if they are not turned in...KILL THEM.

THAT is war, Wildane. If you dont know that, why dont you go enlist?
You will learn.

I did =/
Ever read Sun Tzu's Art of War, Chiteng?
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:41 AM   #17
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Then we will lose. Because we are facing an enemy that IS willing to get down and dirty.

War is the application of force, for political end. To use restraint, in that application, simply emboldens the enemy.

Yes we should have used Nukes. Cheaper, and no occupation force needed afterwards. I did say that, AT THE TIME. But no one was listening.
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:43 AM   #18
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Yes, I have. I have also read 'On War', have you?

Sun Tzu wanted to conquer and assimilate. that requires different tactics.
Sun Tzu wanted to make the conquered enemy his new subjects.
We dont.
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Von Clausewitz was good. I liked Sun Tzu's elementary approach personally

Maybe the problem here is we are not trying to conquer.
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:53 AM   #20
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Exactly, they are simply waiting for us to go home.
And eventually we will.

I would love to see just ONCE, we give creeps like this the back or our hand.
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Old 03-31-2004, 11:08 AM   #21
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Unfortunately, I do not believe that this will be an isolated incident. Given the opportunity, the same thing will happen again. What will President Bush do when the bodies being dragged around in the street and strung up from a bridge are American Soldiers?
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Old 03-31-2004, 11:20 AM   #22
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Umm, you all missed the most interesting part.

The 82nd airborne is being replaced by the marines. This clearly indicates that the pentagon has one motherfucking huge ass combat scenario in mind. Marines are not an occupation force, not even trained to occupy shit, blow it up kill the fuckers and leave, the army is intended as an occupation force. Them damn towleheads have fucked with us one too many times.
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Old 03-31-2004, 11:20 AM   #23
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Unfortunately, I do not believe that this will be an isolated incident. Given the opportunity, the same thing will happen again. What will President Bush do when the bodies being dragged around in the street and strung up from a bridge are American Soldiers?

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The man knows NOTHING of actual combat.
How much of a pussy do you think he is?

At a guess, he will find a way to pull out.
He should NOT have gone in.
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What will President Bush do when the bodies being dragged around in the street and strung up from a bridge are American Soldiers?
I'm hoping he won't do the same thing a previous president did.
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How much money does a job have to pay to get some one to take these kinds of risk?

I have always been uncomfortable with the idea of civilian contractors in a war zone and its for exactly this reason.
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