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Old 03-09-2004, 11:41 AM   #1
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Default Halliburton under criminal investigation.

Halliburton has lost seven contracts because of their alleged misconduct in "overcharging" the US government for oil bought from Kuwait.

US hands out new Iraq oil deals


The US military has awarded seven new contracts for supplying oil to Iraq, to replace a controversial deal with Vice-President Dick Cheney's former firm.
Halliburton, once led by Mr Cheney, is being probed for allegedly overcharging on oil brought in from Kuwait.

All seven new contracts rely on supplies from Turkey.

Six of the new deals, worth in total $200m, are with Turkish firms, with a seventh - the largest at $108.5m - going to a Texas-based operation.

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An investigation is under way there to see who may have been responsible, as well as a criminal investigation by the Pentagon.

Halliburton has made billions of dollars from other Iraq contracts, many awarded without competitive bidding.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3545259.stm
I think it is great that the Pentagon has brought Halliburton up on criminal charges. Hopefully they will fry who is responsible for gouging the American tax payer.

Funny how the "liberal media" in the US is not all over this.
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Old 03-09-2004, 12:54 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by BBC
An investigation is under way there to see who may have been responsible, as well as a criminal investigation by the Pentagon.
Originally Posted by Lurikeen
I think it is great that the Pentagon has brought Halliburton up on criminal charges.
Not quite the same thing.

And it's a short blurb on the BBC's website on the same day that John Allen Muhammed was sentenced to death in the US. Give it until tomorrow, and if it doesn't show up in mainstream news outlets at that time, then start ranting about it.
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Old 03-09-2004, 01:26 PM   #3
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Ebino, I can rant about whatever I want, whenever. /flip

BTW, this has been in the news for two months in Europe. When do you think the so-called "liberal media" is going to catch on?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3398377.stm
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Old 03-09-2004, 02:02 PM   #4
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The reason the liberal stations have dropped the BS about Halliburton is
because they have been exonerated of all charges.

Try to keep up Luri. Rehashing old agendas only makes you
look untrustworthy. And f-the EU. They hate bush
more then you do.




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Old 03-09-2004, 02:07 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Zolmaz
Halliburton is
because they have been exonerated of all charges.
They have? You mean the BBC report dated Tuesday, 9 March, 2004 is in error? I wonder how they missed that Halliburton has been exonerated? In fact, how do you know that they have been cleared of all charges in this case when it is still under investigation?
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Old 03-09-2004, 02:16 PM   #6
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Why would the BBC lie? I knew you were just waiting for me.

Ok then. Here ya go. Strait from the Wall Street Journal Online.

Army Corps Clears Halliburton
In Flap Over Fuel Pricing in Iraq



By NEIL KING JR.
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

WASHINGTON — The head of the Army Corps of Engineers quietly exonerated Halliburton Co. of any wrongdoing in a Kuwait fuel-delivery contract that Pentagon auditors asserted has overcharged the U.S. government by more than $100 million.
And more,
The decision, which Halliburton itself requested, came after Halliburton's pricing of gasoline sold to the U.S. government exploded into public controversy last month when Defense Department auditors alleged that Kellogg Brown & Root, known as KBR, was significantly overcharging. While the auditors never accused the company of profiteering, when news of the audit broke, President Bush said that if Halliburton had overcharged for the fuel, he expected the company to repay the money.
And finally,
Let it go luri. Stop going overseas to get your dirt on Bush and America.
Like they know more then our rags here do.


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Old 03-09-2004, 02:23 PM   #7
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ROFL!!

Umm... The Army Corps of Engineers may have let them off the hook, but the Pentagon hasn't let Haliburton off the hook, tard.


Edit: BTW, the CEO of Haliburton felt compelled to write an article responding to the ongoing investigation by the Pentagon. http://www.halliburton.com/news/arch...cle_030304.jsp
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Old 03-09-2004, 02:33 PM   #8
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Read the whole artical Luri. Denile is not in your best interest here.
Failure and acceptance is the begining of a very successfull future.

Go to Google news and Type /Halliburton Cleared
Let us know what you find.




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Old 03-09-2004, 02:47 PM   #9
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Zolmaz, the CEO of Haliburton would not feel compelled to write an article, published in The Washington Post on March 3, 2004, if the Pentagon wasn't continuing its audit and investigation of Haliburton.

Sorry that your Bush buddies are still on the hot seat. Well, actually, I'm not sorry at all.

Edit: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/b...lliburton.html

http://houston.bizjournals.com/houst...8/daily21.html

From the Houston Bizjournal...

LATEST NEWS

1:07 PM CST Tuesday

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Houston-based Halliburton's Kellogg Brown & Root unit has been the focus of a investigation by the Pentagon's Inspector General's office, which has alleged that KBR overcharged for fuel brought into Iraq under a no-bid deal it had with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

The company strongly denies any wrongdoing and says it brought in fuel for the best possible price under very dangerous circumstances
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Old 03-09-2004, 03:02 PM   #10
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Luri,
Your quote,
BTW, this has been in the news for two months in Europe. When do you think the so-called "liberal media" is going to catch on?
Answer? Because they know it's over. Do you think they would drop
it because of one article? During an election year? Heck no.

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Old 03-10-2004, 05:58 AM   #11
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Ebino, I can rant about whatever I want, whenever. /flip
Yes, you've repeatedly displayed that.

Anyway, I don't see it on any of the major news outlets this morning so feel free to continue to rant with my blessings.

Carry on.
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Old 03-10-2004, 09:58 AM   #12
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Default Congressional Inquiry Necessary for War Profiteering

Originally Posted by Ebino
feel free to continue to rant with my blessings.
If you insist.


Congressional Inquiry Necessary for War Profiteering

Campaign to Stop the War Profiteerers
February 25, 2004


The Pentagon and State Department criminal fraud investigations of Halliburton concerning their handling of a fuel contract in Iraq are an important first step - but point to the need for bold action on the part of the President and Congress to ensure accountability of military contractors, according to the Campaign to Stop the War Profiteers.

"The Pentagon's decision to investigate criminal wrong-doing by Halliburton is commendable and an important first step," said Chris Kromm, co-director of the Campaign. "However, the scope of the scandals surrounding Halliburton and other military contractors demands a full Congressional inquiry into the politics surrounding contract decisions, and the performance of corporations that have been given billions of taxpayer dollars."

"Halliburton has overcharged by at least $61 million for gasoline brought in from Kuwait to Iraq; Halliburton employees took at least $6.3 million in kickbacks for steering a subcontract for Iraq rebuilding to a Kuwaiti firm; and Halliburton was charging the government for three times as many meals as it was actually serving to U.S. soldiers in Kuwait over a nine month period," said William Hartung, senior fellow at the World Policy Institute at the New School and author of a forthcoming book on war profiteering.

"In short, Halliburton is a desperate firm with a history of shaky ethical practices that is being allowed to take U.S. taxpayers for a ride in large part because of its cozy relationship with the Army and its powerful friend in the White House, Vice President Cheney," Hartung concluded.

Kromm noted that government agencies have yet to investigate San Francisco-based Bechtel which, despite being given over a billion for various reconstruction projects in Iraq, has been dogged by charges of waste, fraud and abuse. Kromm and the Campaign also expressed concern that the Pentagon official in charge of the investigation, L. Jean Lewis, is known as a highly partisan Republican activist, who was roundly condemned for her zealous leadership of the Whitewater legal case against President Clinton in the 1990s.

Keith Ashdown, Vice-President of Policy at Taxpayers for Common Sense, further stated, "Recent revelations about questionable billing and procurement practices have raised important questions about the quality of government oversight in Iraq and whether the Bush Administration is adequately protecting the interests of American taxpayers. Hundreds of millions of dollars are being wasted as a result of unscrupulous conduct by contractors and lax government controls and oversight. A bipartisan, independent commission is needed to review the performance of contractors under existing contracts and monitor the letting of subcontracts."

Campaign organizers say the ongoing revelations of war profiteering and the Pentagon criminal investigation add urgency to the need for reform measures, including:

Establish A Bipartisan War Profiteering Commission: Congress should establish a bipartisan commission based on the Truman Committee model with the goal of rooting out waste and malfeasance. The committee would have the power to subpoena the appropriate parties and conduct far-ranging investigations into the nature of the contracting process, and thus will perform an important public service to U.S. taxpayers in this time of huge government outlays and to the Iraqi people who are in desperate straits.

End "Cost-Plus" Contracts: As whistleblower and former Halliburton purchasing officer Henry Bunting stated in recent testimony to the Senate Democratic Policy Committee, Halliburton's unofficial motto in Iraq is "don't worry about it, it's cost-plus." Cost-Plus contracts remove any incentive for corporations to reduce costs; the greater the cost incurred in the project, the greater the profit for the company.

Organizations around the country held demonstrations yesterday against corporate war profiteering, with events in 20 cities including San Francisco, C.A.; Houston, T.X.; Raleigh-Durham, N.C.; and Washington, D.C. Activists called on Congress to take immediate action to hold military contractors accountable and for legislation penalizing companies that engage in war profiteering. They also demanded full respect for democracy and human rights in Iraq.

The Campaign to Stop the War Profiteers is a national initiative of the Institute for Southern Studies, a non-profit research, education and action center based in Durham, N.C. The Campaign has been endorsed by over 50 organizations and thousands of activists nation-wide. For more information about the Institute and the Campaign, visit www.southernstudies.org


http://www.corpwatch.org/news/PND.jsp?articleid=10116
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Old 03-10-2004, 02:32 PM   #13
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Default F- The EU?!

FYI information, the following countries were amongst the ‘Coalition of the willing’: The Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, The Netherlands, Poland, Slovakia and Spain.

Some of these counties offered support to Bush inspite of *massive* opposition from the public. (Like we did here in the UK)...

If you haven’t already noticed, the countries I have listed are either full EU members or will become members in May this year.

So are you just ill-informed, ungrateful or both?
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:42 PM   #14
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Xanthaar,
BFD. Do you know of any other company can do what Haliburton does?
If you find one, please let us know.

My link is better then Luri's old feb link. Afterall, if the press say's it's true,
then it must be true. Right Luri?

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Old 03-11-2004, 01:52 AM   #15
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Zol,
I merely your commented on your ‘F- the EU’ statement. I made no reference to Haliburton, nor will I do so, as it has nothing to do with why I replied.

Also, I was raised to think that if anyone offered me help or support, the appropriate response would be something along the lines of ‘Thank you’. Not ‘BFD’…
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Old 03-11-2004, 02:00 AM   #16
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Xan,
I'll sort your crap out later. Your lucky i'm toasted!

I'll be all into your BS. Just you be ready homey fuckin clause.


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Old 03-12-2004, 08:12 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Lurikeen
Funny how the "liberal media" in the US is not all over this.
Eh, so we're a little slow here in the US sometimes.

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Old 03-12-2004, 08:19 AM   #18
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It still hasn't hit the front pages in the US. If the media was so terribly liberal, as the c0ns would have us believe, we should expect to see such news stories headlining our papers and news programs.
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It still hasn't hit the front pages in the US. If the media was so terribly liberal, as the c0ns would have us believe, we should expect to see such news stories headlining our papers and news programs.
Hmmm...the top story at CNN.com this morning is the bombings in Spain - deservedly so, I would say. More top stories (at the top of the page)...

MORE TOP STORIES

• New Bush ads take aim at Kerry | Video

Iraq contract: Halliburton admits faulty pricing

• Diana tapes tell of Camilla confrontation

• C-section refusal prompts murder charge

• Senate passes $2.36 trillion budget | Video

• Swarm of cicadas takes aim at U.S.

• Who's the funniest man in America?
How much more prominent do you want it?
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Old 03-12-2004, 08:44 AM   #20
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Ebino, you are missing the point. It isn't "how much more prominent" I want the story to be. You actually proved my point. Here you have the "Communist News Network", with perfect opportunity to slam the Bush administration, tucking away the Haliburton story into a side bar on their website.

If CNN was part and parcel of a "liberal media conspiracy" to topple the conservatives, then I would expect that they would be running the Haliburton story on at least the first page of their politics section, but they don't even headline the story there!

Oh, and while we are here...

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Pentagon auditors found a Halliburton Co. subsidiary gave faulty cost estimates on a $2.7 billion contract to serve American troops in Iraq and Kuwait, and company officials acknowledged making mistakes, Defense Department documents show.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/03/12/hal....ap/index.html
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Originally Posted by Lurikeen
Here you have the "Communist News Network", with perfect opportunity to slam the Bush administration, tucking away the Haliburton story into a side bar on their website.
Because, in your opinion, it's a bigger story than the bombings in Spain?

If CNN was part and parcel of a "liberal media conspiracy" to topple the conservatives, then I would expect that they would be running the Haliburton story on at least the first page of their politics section, but they don't even headline the story there!
Because it's not really a political story. It's headlined on the front page with the rest of the top stories, and on the domestic page with the top stories there (taking a backseat to the gay marriage issue in Massachusetts today, apparently).

And it WILL be a bigger story if Halliburton is indicted and/or convicted. That hasn't happened yet, though.
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Do that again. And much harder, please.
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