Scammers, Spammers, and the like. - Erollisi Marr

Ini · 02-03-2007, 04:38 PM

This post is for your notice. If you are intent on leaving a post telling us how you can improve mens size, find a russian bride, best myspace, alien invaders are coming, know this. I will use your ISP, find out your address and phone number, get your name plastered all over this board so everyone on these boards can call you, write you, even come to your hosue and defile your toilet by upper decking it, so help me Xenu.

Have a not so wonderful afternoon you wankers. LEAVE THIS FUCKING BOARD ALONE!

Alinusara · 02-03-2007, 07:17 PM

Thanks Ini

Karthanon · 02-03-2007, 09:38 PM

Retarded Lemurs, attack!

Caeelar · 02-04-2007, 11:24 PM

Release the Hounds!!

Vidyne · 02-07-2007, 02:24 PM

The only downside to this may be that given the varying IP addresses, this may be one person with a botnet of trojan infected computers, similar to the DoS scares of yesteryear... where one person spreads his virus/trojan a little bit and slowly builds 50+ computers he can control, enabling him access to those machines, then using those machines to post these links... Those machines are unknowning victums of infection. Banning them works, but finding the IP address could be better, as maybe it might lead to someone finding a "zombie computer" or computer infected with the bug, and being able to find the true attacker's IP address.

Or it could just be one group with a few computers that keep making the entries.

/shrugs... heard about it back when the DoS attacks were more prevalent.

Davek · 02-07-2007, 03:25 PM

Actually, what would help is to have a board registration process where it can't be done by a bot. Much like those sites you go to where you have to actually enter a confirmation code that is imbedded in a graphic.

Ini · 02-07-2007, 06:36 PM

Hell of an idea Davek, unfortunately Oggie is the only person that can accomplish that.

Krrak · 02-09-2007, 02:40 PM

And there are now some OCR bots that can read the message in the graphic - the newest and best way of beating this is having a random question that needs a correct answer to complete the registration. Several boards now have this feature that the mods (or sys op's) enter in the questions and answers and the system will NOT complete a registration that cannot answer the question correctly.

solicia · 02-09-2007, 08:02 PM

what about email confirmation on registration?

Brigiid · 03-09-2007, 09:30 AM

E-mail and graphic recognition don't keep the spammers away from another vB board I admin. Good luck with that one.

solicia · 03-09-2007, 11:22 AM

i mean they cant post until a board admin permits them to via email confirmation.

AylluesaMT · 03-10-2007, 02:18 PM

Something I have found effective is to blacklist email domains.

90% of the spam that PE has gotten was from domains with .ru

So just don't allow registration with email address from .ru

I know this sucks for people with russian IPs, but they just have to get an email address with a more reputable source.

The way I handle spam is:

Enforce email activation ( I think you do this already )
Use some type CAPTCHA ( the image text you have to type in )

Then if a spammer gets through this, and you notice their post is spam, lookup their email, if it is not from a reputable source, blacklist the entire email domain from future registration, and delete the user.

I know that is not a perfect solution, but I have never met anyone that actual has an email address that ends in .ru, or .biz, etc..

It cut our spam down a good bit, and then I usually go through and purge/ban email domains about once a week.

But just block .ru and .biz will stop a good bit of your spam, also domains like cashette.com are big spammers, so just block any emails that try to come from cashette.com

Our system is based on PHPBB, but vBulliten should have extension that do what I described.

Memorie · 03-19-2007, 03:06 PM

For necedemalice.com I use phpBB2 and the Textual Confirmation mod. It asks you a question in the registration form that if you answer incorrectly it doesnt complete the registration. I have negated 2 link bots a day and no longer have a problem. I could even allow people to post even without confirmaing their email address if i wanted to, but I don't.

I know this is vBulletin and not phpBB but maybe there is somehting similar for vBulletin and easy to impliment.

Caeelar · 11-10-2012, 05:50 AM

^ That's what ya call ironic....

02-03-2007, 04:38 PM	#1
Ini Indestructible Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Davek is still my hero! Posts: 4,007	Scammers, Spammers, and the like. This post is for your notice. If you are intent on leaving a post telling us how you can improve mens size, find a russian bride, best myspace, alien invaders are coming, know this. I will use your ISP, find out your address and phone number, get your name plastered all over this board so everyone on these boards can call you, write you, even come to your hosue and defile your toilet by upper decking it, so help me Xenu. Have a not so wonderful afternoon you wankers. LEAVE THIS FUCKING BOARD ALONE! __________________ Pafuna Economics 101 That reminds me of someone eating a shit sandwich who is happy that it has 20% less shit.

02-04-2007, 11:24 PM	#4
Caeelar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,150	Release the Hounds!! __________________ Sir Caeelar Grailchaser 109th Holy Defender of Tunare Officer of Phoenix Ascending of Erollisi Marr

02-07-2007, 02:24 PM	#5
Vidyne Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 72	The only downside to this may be that given the varying IP addresses, this may be one person with a botnet of trojan infected computers, similar to the DoS scares of yesteryear... where one person spreads his virus/trojan a little bit and slowly builds 50+ computers he can control, enabling him access to those machines, then using those machines to post these links... Those machines are unknowning victums of infection. Banning them works, but finding the IP address could be better, as maybe it might lead to someone finding a "zombie computer" or computer infected with the bug, and being able to find the true attacker's IP address. Or it could just be one group with a few computers that keep making the entries. /shrugs... heard about it back when the DoS attacks were more prevalent. __________________ Officer of Avatar Elite

02-07-2007, 03:25 PM	#6
Davek Squawk Box Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ini is the wind beneath my wings. Posts: 7,988	Actually, what would help is to have a board registration process where it can't be done by a bot. Much like those sites you go to where you have to actually enter a confirmation code that is imbedded in a graphic. __________________ Davek Bonemender ~ Guild Leader of Sunrunners ~ ~ Retired with 8 years of service ~ ~ Semi-unretired 2012 ~ Man that just rolls off the tongue nicely. Originally Posted by Karthanon I know, you're in Ottawa, Davek. Still, I can't help but /poke you. Originally Posted by Drysdale And you wonder why I don't play nice with you? You leave my man buttons alone.. Those are Davek's.

02-07-2007, 06:36 PM	#7
Ini Indestructible Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Davek is still my hero! Posts: 4,007	Hell of an idea Davek, unfortunately Oggie is the only person that can accomplish that. __________________ Pafuna Economics 101 That reminds me of someone eating a shit sandwich who is happy that it has 20% less shit.

02-03-2007, 07:17 PM	#2
Alinusara Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 965	Thanks Ini

02-03-2007, 09:38 PM	#3
Karthanon Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 579	Retarded Lemurs, attack!

02-09-2007, 02:40 PM	#8
Krrak Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 427	And there are now some OCR bots that can read the message in the graphic - the newest and best way of beating this is having a random question that needs a correct answer to complete the registration. Several boards now have this feature that the mods (or sys op's) enter in the questions and answers and the system will NOT complete a registration that cannot answer the question correctly. __________________ Master Artisan Krrak (Kiillz) D'Bonz Monk Officer Destiny Of Marr

02-09-2007, 08:02 PM	#9
solicia Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 910	what about email confirmation on registration?

03-09-2007, 09:30 AM	#10
Brigiid Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,879	E-mail and graphic recognition don't keep the spammers away from another vB board I admin. Good luck with that one. __________________ Meh.

03-09-2007, 11:22 AM	#11
solicia Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 910	i mean they cant post until a board admin permits them to via email confirmation.

03-10-2007, 02:18 PM	#12
AylluesaMT Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 31	Something I have found effective is to blacklist email domains. 90% of the spam that PE has gotten was from domains with .ru So just don't allow registration with email address from .ru I know this sucks for people with russian IPs, but they just have to get an email address with a more reputable source. The way I handle spam is: Enforce email activation ( I think you do this already ) Use some type CAPTCHA ( the image text you have to type in ) Then if a spammer gets through this, and you notice their post is spam, lookup their email, if it is not from a reputable source, blacklist the entire email domain from future registration, and delete the user. I know that is not a perfect solution, but I have never met anyone that actual has an email address that ends in .ru, or .biz, etc.. It cut our spam down a good bit, and then I usually go through and purge/ban email domains about once a week. But just block .ru and .biz will stop a good bit of your spam, also domains like cashette.com are big spammers, so just block any emails that try to come from cashette.com Our system is based on PHPBB, but vBulliten should have extension that do what I described.

03-19-2007, 03:06 PM	#13
Memorie Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 31	For necedemalice.com I use phpBB2 and the Textual Confirmation mod. It asks you a question in the registration form that if you answer incorrectly it doesnt complete the registration. I have negated 2 link bots a day and no longer have a problem. I could even allow people to post even without confirmaing their email address if i wanted to, but I don't. I know this is vBulletin and not phpBB but maybe there is somehting similar for vBulletin and easy to impliment.

11-10-2012, 05:50 AM	#14
Caeelar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,150	^ That's what ya call ironic.... __________________ Sir Caeelar Grailchaser 109th Holy Defender of Tunare Officer of Phoenix Ascending of Erollisi Marr

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