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Old 08-06-2008, 09:27 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by Michael Cumberlan View Post
LOL ... I have 50 COBOL programmers sitting within 500 feet of me, and I work at a Fortune 500 company. We converted our IBM ASSEMBLER payroll system to Peoplesoft at a cost of millions, and it works about as good as the old system did, although it does require several updates per year, and lots more hardware, vs. a system that pretty much didn't change at all before it was replaced.

The true joke is that it is probably EASIER to make a legacy mainframe system do what Arnold wants vs. a new-fangled c# of Java based GUI thing, but no one would ever want to admit that old technology works just fine.
Well, there's probably a lot of truth to that, but I'm curious what their current costs are. Seems like a pretty clear case where you just go with what's the cheapest solution for 5-10 years. If it's "stick with what you got and update the code", do it. If it's "switch to the new fangled stuff and convert the old data", do it. The fact that they've already spent millions on a new custom solution that doesn't work yet seems like they've managed to combine the worst of the two solutions.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:20 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Michael Cumberlan View Post
LOL ... I have 50 COBOL programmers sitting within 500 feet of me, and I work at a Fortune 500 company. We converted our IBM ASSEMBLER payroll system to Peoplesoft at a cost of millions, and it works about as good as the old system did, although it does require several updates per year, and lots more hardware, vs. a system that pretty much didn't change at all before it was replaced.

The true joke is that it is probably EASIER to make a legacy mainframe system do what Arnold wants vs. a new-fangled c# of Java based GUI thing, but no one would ever want to admit that old technology works just fine.
Yes and no... There's legacy hardware to keep updated, fixes as time goes on, and the fact that a lot of the old systems just won't integrate nicely with everything (databases) which can limit productivity. Sure, it'll do that ONE job nicely, probably until the mainframe breaks down. But what then? It's getting costlier and harder to keep those old boxes running.
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