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Old 09-08-2012, 05:05 PM   #26
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It passed despite the actual voting results.


What people are forgetting is that according to Robert's Rules of Order, modern parliamentary procedure affords the tie breaking vote to the teleprompter.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:42 AM   #27
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You continuously spurn the Rule of Law. At every turn. And those "whackos" were elected delegates. You don't give a shit though. You just pop up and dismiss them. Guess what, Pinky, those aren't just fringe whackos, they're elected delegates. Their the core constituency of the DNC.
So? They weren't the majority on this one, and it's a political organization, not a court room. Are you just as mad at Republicans, who changed the way their folks are selected?? That is a much bigger change directly related to your "issue" here. I don't really find this a problem, but I do find it telling you have so much fake anger at the DNC and completely gloss over what happened at the RNC. I mean they overrode their people and changed how people are selected... but I guess when the RNC does it, it's okay.

Oh, and as usual, since they didn't get their way, the leaders just plowed on ahead and ignored the rules. (And yes, the bylaws state that a 2/3 majority was needed to put that wording back in. How nice of you to finally get that through your dim bulb of a brain)
Was there actually a question on the 2/3 issue? I don't recall one? I asked about the rules related to the chair persons opinion and counting of the vote (I guess they could have voted to suspend the rules, as well)... Worry less about insults and more about what is being discussed.

You are showing yourself as a shill here.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:59 AM   #28
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So? They weren't the majority on this one,
It needed a 2/3's majority you dolt.

And yes, those are the rules. If a clear 2/3 isn't reached, they're supposed to go to a real vote. But instead, they acted like Democrats always act, and just ran roughshod over the people.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:38 AM   #29
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It needed a 2/3's majority you dolt.

And yes, those are the rules. If a clear 2/3 isn't reached, they're supposed to go to a real vote. But instead, they acted like Democrats always act, and just ran roughshod over the people.
So were the Republicans acting like Democrats when Boehner did the same thing?

Look, I am not saying I think what they did was a good thing... I am not saying it is a bad thing. I don't really care what they do within their party. (IF I was part of the party, I would probably have more of an opinion). Am I glad they did what was right in the end? Yeah, glad they did wht was right.

At least I am being honest and saying, I don't really care. You, on the other hand, are full of fake outrage, while ignoring that the Republicans did the exact same thing at their convention... except, instead of just a platform point, they made a significant change to who has a voice. You seem to be willing to take it up the rectum from Boehner, but have a hissy fit over the Democrats. Why is that? Could it be because you really don't care about the process, all you really care about is name calling? Maybe.

I don't care about either one. Maybe I am complacent, but I am consistantly complacent. You, however are just a shill for one party. It just so happens that party won't just ignore your voice, but they will dictate who actually has a voice from the national level. How convenient. Stop being a mouthpiece. At least apply your indignation equally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lx2AXjlcRk

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Old 09-11-2012, 11:03 AM   #30
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What, Boehner took a vocal vote on something, which had to be repeated twice because they didn't get the desired result, and pushed it through despite overwhelming opposition? I don't remember that making the paper.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:57 AM   #31
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What, Boehner took a vocal vote on something, which had to be repeated twice because they didn't get the desired result, and pushed it through despite overwhelming opposition? I don't remember that making the paper.
Yeah, both parties did the same damned thing... but here we are playing the blame game, with Drysdale flashing his titties and acting hysterical about the Democrats.

Is anyone stupid enough to believe that the parties aren't controlled by a rather small elite group on either side? .. and is anyone really dumb enough to believe that those in control are really THAT different?

I dunno, I guess I'll wait for Drysdale's next post to answer.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:09 PM   #32
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Is anyone stupid enough to believe that the parties aren't controlled by a rather small elite group on either side? .. and is anyone really dumb enough to believe that those in control are really THAT different?
That's why our primary system needs drastic revision.

Do you have a link to the Boehner story?
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:12 PM   #33
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That's why our primary system needs drastic revision.

Do you have a link to the Boehner story?
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...bjections?lite

There's an article about it... it didn't get much coverage.

Lots of people making the exact same "roughshod" comments about the RNC before the dems did it. Two sides to the same coin. (The video I linked is from the RNC... it's obvious they did the same thing.- I am starting to think we shouldn't be voting for politicians, but for telemprompter technicians).
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:29 PM   #34
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OK, I remember that now, although it was framed under the context that it was only the Ron Paul supporters booing, which I wouldn't think would be a majority of the RNC, but I've been wrong before.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:33 PM   #35
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OK, I remember that now, although it was framed under the context that it was only the Ron Paul supporters booing, which I wouldn't think would be a majority of the RNC, but I've been wrong before.
Well... from the sound of the Nays, Ron Paul has a huge following.

I think a lot of the reason had to do with Ron Paul, but it also took a lot of voice from the states, so it wasn't popular with more than just Ron Paul supporters.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:23 PM   #36
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Well, our electoral process is fucked. Sure, everybody gets to vote, but we only get to vote for 1 candidate from each party, I guess for the sake of convenience. Due to the way our primary system is set up, those candidates are selected by their respective party's extremes. I don't think our low voting percentage has to do with laziness, but with a lack of selection. I know I'm not voting for either of those clowns.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:25 PM   #37
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Well, our electoral process is fucked. Sure, everybody gets to vote, but we only get to vote for 1 candidate from each party, I guess for the sake of convenience. Due to the way our primary system is set up, those candidates are selected by their respective party's extremes. I don't think our low voting percentage has to do with laziness, but with a lack of selection. I know I'm not voting for either of those clowns.
Agreed- It's no surprise that the fringes choose candidates and then you don't get a huge turn out to vote for them.... why would the general population get excited and vote for one of two people that were chosen by extremists? OTOH, since the extremists pick the people... moderates have zero chance of getting nominated.. since the extremists consider them "crazy".
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:30 AM   #38
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So were the Republicans acting like Democrats when Boehner did the same thing?
Probably. So what? What does that have to do with anything? Are you trying to say that 2 wrongs make a right? Fuck the Republicans and double fuck the Democrats.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:31 AM   #39
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Well... from the sound of the Nays, Ron Paul has a huge following.

I think a lot of the reason had to do with Ron Paul, but it also took a lot of voice from the states, so it wasn't popular with more than just Ron Paul supporters.
And if you had a brain in your head, you'd know that I'm an unabashed Ron Paul Supporter, and bashed the GOP for their treatment of him. Nice revisionist history there Pinko.
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Oh, and Pinko, if you think the "extremists" chose Romney, you're sadly mistaken. He's just about the most moderate candidate in the game. If the "extremists" had their say, they'd have picked Santorum or Bachman.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:55 AM   #41
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Probably. So what? What does that have to do with anything? Are you trying to say that 2 wrongs make a right? Fuck the Republicans and double fuck the Democrats.
Oh, double fuck the Democrats.... because they did the same thing.

Where did I say this made anything right? I said, in no certain terms, I couldn't care less about what they do in their own party. YOU, on the other hand came here screeching about the Democrats and how awful they were, while bleating for the RNC. Now you get called and suddenly, everyone is in the wrong! (But still- double fuck the Democrats!) lol - clown.
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Oh, and Pinko, if you think the "extremists" chose Romney, you're sadly mistaken. He's just about the most moderate candidate in the game. If the "extremists" had their say, they'd have picked Santorum or Bachman.
This is just how much of a sheep you are. You can't even recognize the extremists involved in selection of a massively dynastic wealth baby and Wall St. vulture as a nominee. Yes, you named some clearly radical potential nominees. Just like I can CLEARLY see that Pelosi is a radical. It's harder for you to see the radicals in charge that you are following, though. I recognize that Obama is a radical, chosen by radicals. You are so up to your neck in shilling that you actually think Romney is just a moderate guy that represents anyone beyond a select few. (Of course you did qualify with "in the game"... which really makes the statement pointless, since we were discussing that no real moderate is allowed to play in this game- But good job inserting some shilling in there for your masters).

The worst part is that Ron Paul got cast as the radical.... but that is what happens when you start spouting logic at political events.

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Old 09-12-2012, 11:44 AM   #43
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Oh, double fuck the Democrats.... because they did the same thing.
No, double fuck them because they're a bunch of Socialist asshats.
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No, double fuck them because they're a bunch of Socialist asshats.
Okay, now well you have a good rant going. I am feeling that, tell me more.
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