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Old 04-03-2009, 11:10 AM   #1
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Default Death of a State

Leaving Michigan Behind: Eight-year population exodus staggers state
Outflow of skilled, educated workers crimps Michigan's recovery


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People are leaving Michigan at a staggering rate. About 109,000 more people left Michigan last year than moved in. It is one of the worst rates in the nation, quadruple the loss of just eight years ago. The state loses a family every 12 minutes, and the families who are leaving -- young, well-educated high-income earners -- are the people the state desperately needs to rebuild.

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Population loss of that magnitude is so rare that its impact has never been studied. But The News' analysis discovered some sobering trends:

Those leaving Michigan are the people the state most needs to keep -- young and college-educated. The state suffered a net loss to migration of 18,000 adults with a bachelor's degree or higher in 2007 alone -- the equivalent of half the staff of the University of Michigan crossing the state line.

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Michiganians who fled the state in 2007 took with them almost $1.2 billion more in paychecks than the paychecks of those moving in. That represents a 45 percent increase in lost wages in just one year, money no longer spent in Michigan businesses, paying mortgages or paying taxes.

Those leaving Michigan had incomes 20 percent higher than those who moved here ($49,700 to $40,000), a disturbing reversal of a long-standing trend.

And those figures don't take into account the "ripple effect" those paychecks would have had here -- an estimated $3.7 billion.

The net loss of school-age children was more than 12,000 in 2007 alone, costing individual school districts roughly $84 million in state aid.

With about 36,000 more households leaving the state than moving in, that leaves 36,000 empty houses and apartments, damaging already weak home values. "When there are more properties on the market, it drives down prices," said Ron Walraven, a real estate agent in West Bloomfield. "With the layoffs and the buyouts at the auto companies, people are leaving. Some are just abandoning their homes."

People moving from state to state are disproportionately young. While almost 13 percent of Michigan's population is over 65, only 2.5 percent of those leaving are that old. That means outmigration is adding to the costs associated with an aging population, such as the state's share of Medicaid payments to retirement homes.

There will be fewer tax dollars to pay for those services, maintain roads or run schools. According to Senate Fiscal Agency estimates, the income leaving the state cost Michigan more than $100 million in personal income tax revenue in 2007 alone.
I don't know if anyone here lives up there in the Big Hand state, but whatever is going on up there, it isn't just since last year. This is a hugely important and chilling trend for those folks...

I also make a pointed and, naturally, a little biased observation in that the Democrats have been largely in control of the state since the 1960s, with strong union support for Democrat candidates. While it may be a bit of a stretch to correlate the impending death of Michigan as a going concern to unions alone, it certainly is telling over the course of its history the unions had much sway over the Democrat representation in politics and the ensuing cabal of collective bargaining.

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Old 04-03-2009, 11:49 AM   #2
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Take a look at California... Same thing is happening there. And New York. That's why Texas gained house seats 10 years ago and New York Lost them. And why would anyone stay in a state where you have to pay taxes on taxes?
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:27 PM   #3
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Take a look at California... Same thing is happening there. And New York. That's why Texas gained house seats 10 years ago and New York Lost them. And why would anyone stay in a state where you have to pay taxes on taxes?
Cant be. According to census, CA is rising rapidly
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:56 PM   #4
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Not of anyone actually doing anything worthwhile.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=56876

And there's a difference between population rise and people leaving the state.
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:08 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Drysdale View Post
That's why Texas gained house seats 10 years ago and New York Lost them.
You just wait. Obamessiah will bring change to Texas. All your dollars are belong to us!
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:09 PM   #6
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:58 PM   #7
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Enter Ax stage right,

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Old 04-03-2009, 05:23 PM   #8
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Fuck unions.



I had people last winter from Michican call me at the bar, had no clue whom I was and ask how to find a place in my hometown and who to call for a job......... go figure.
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Old 04-05-2009, 03:42 PM   #10
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I know a few people who worked at our since-shuttered Ann Arbor site who stayed in MI. I thought they were crazy at the time and still do. Sad as it is, that state seems irreparably fucked. Easy for me to say I suppose, it's not "home," but still.
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