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Old 08-15-2008, 09:15 PM   #1
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Default since when is porn illegal?

Max Hardore convicted of 10 counts of selling obscene material on the Internet and 10 counts of shipping it to Tampa through the U.S. mail.

Yea, I know they man does SICK shit, but if people wanna buy it, more power to em.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...icle609794.ece
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Old 08-15-2008, 11:55 PM   #2
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Sometimes my country sucks.

This sucks for several reasons: one: nothing ON the film is actually illegal according to the article. Just not up to community standards to film it. (in other words, we arent talking about rape or use of minors, just sex and some things that generally count as "gross".

Second, he didn't do any of it in tampa, just apparently ran a website that could be seen in Tampa for a fee.

Third: he didn't actually distribute it either. He sold it to a distributor and THEY sold it. According to the srticle he was convicted becuase the judge instructed the jury that selling it to a distributor is reasonable foreknowledge that it would be mailed.

LAST: this will innevitably be overturned at some point down the line. The courts have already ruled on the issue multiple times. It wont stand. How do I know it wont stand? Becuase it never has before.

BUT, it will make Captain Sleaze into an obscenely wealthy man as he becomes a Larry Flint style superstar when it innevitably is overturned, meaning that the end result is that not only does the "gross" films continue to exist, but they'll be everywhere.

and of course the tax payers will pay out millions in the process in order to make Captain Sleaze into a superstar.

Tampa gets the "dunce" sign today. Florida in the news for being stupid...must be an election year.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:06 AM   #3
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They have strict rules you have to be in compliance with to protect yourself. This looks like he didn't comply by the rules. There was of course a lot of info left out of the article that would have been interesting to know. One of the big ones, he obviously rented server space, as in he didn't know one of his sites were being hosted in Tampa.....so are they going to go after the hosting company as they should for not monitoring the contents they are hosting for customers. We have to constantly keep checking our customers, we are liable for anything they decide to do. This to me sounds like someone had a problem with this guy, and used emotions of the jury to convict. If they cannot get the obscene title removed from the material, I don't see it getting over turned. I don't like what he does, but I simply won't watch, and to be honest have never heard of him. Hopefully they can get the content to be ruled not obscene.
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Old 08-16-2008, 07:06 AM   #4
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Cracks me up that a guy whose profession relies on extreme moral flexibility, a pawnshop owner, was the jury foreman. Hello kettle!
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Old 08-16-2008, 07:08 AM   #5
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this is not only going to be appealed. its going to be overturned.
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Old 08-16-2008, 11:29 AM   #6
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this is not only going to be appealed. its going to be overturned.
And it should be.
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Old 08-17-2008, 05:08 AM   #7
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Where is the ACLU when you need it.
This should be overturned easily. The judge allowed jurors to rule emotionally and didn't define the law clearly. That is his job. He failed.
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Old 08-17-2008, 09:06 AM   #8
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When politics tears us apart, let porn bring us together.
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:19 AM   #9
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I dont think that this garbage should be allowed BUT, then I have a feeling the ball would start rolling to a dangerous zone, so Id rather just use my own judgement to stay away from it.......... and it seems like I do a lot of work on peoples computers that do like to go to porn sites... dunno if it has anything to do with it or if the sites do give out a lot shit to fuck up your computer, I myself wouldnt go there for that reason alone.
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:35 AM   #10
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Where is the ACLU when you need it.
This should be overturned easily. The judge allowed jurors to rule emotionally and didn't define the law clearly. That is his job. He failed.
Jury nullification is a bitch, aint it...
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:28 AM   #11
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When politics tears us apart, let porn bring us together.
There are true forces of good out there that can unite unlikely allies in a time of need...
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:45 AM   #12
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Woo hoo....orgy time! Now if only this weren't happening on a gamers board.
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Woo hoo....orgy time! Now if only this weren't happening on a gamers board.
Depends if you like virgins or not.

I still hope that the reward for Islamic suicide bombers is to spend eternity with a PoP-era EQ raid. /rimshot
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:00 AM   #14
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...you sure do like those rimshots don't ya?
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...you sure do like those rimshots don't ya?
Ask yer mom!1!11!! LAWL
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:31 AM   #17
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What the fuck barbeque loser laugh out loud Shadowbane Rocks EverQuest Sucks Verant Ass Kisser Good quit less lag for me
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Tuan needs to read this thread... he'd love the last few posts... :P
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/smacks Gurglespit

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You asked for it!
Holy shit! Tuan is still lurking! Good to see ya!
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