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Old 01-16-2005, 08:51 PM   #1
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Default Terrorist related attack in NJ?

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/38704.htm

'ISLAMIC HATE' EYED IN SLAYS

By DOUGLAS MONTERO and STEFAN C. FRIEDMAN

VIGIL: Candles are lit yesterday outside the Jersey City home where Hossam Armanious and wife Amal Garas and their daughters were killed.
- Felix Bryant



January 16, 2005 -- The father of a murdered New Jersey family was threatened for making anti-Muslim remarks online and the gruesome quadruple slaying may have been the hateful retaliation, sources told The Post yesterday.
Hossam Armanious, 47, who along with his wife and two daughters was found stabbed to death in his Jersey City home early Friday, would regularly debate religion in a Middle Eastern chat room, one source said.

Armanious, an Egyptian Christian, was well known for expressing his Coptic beliefs and engaging in fiery back-and-forth with Muslims on the Web site paltalk.com.

He "had the reputation for being one of the most outspoken Egyptian Christians," said the source, who had close ties to the family.

The source, who had knowledge of the investigation, refused to specify the anti-Muslim statement. But he said cops told him they were looking into the exchanges as a possible motive.

The married father of two had recently been threatened by Muslim members of the Web site, said a fellow Copt and store clerk who uses the chat room.

"You'd better stop this bull---- or we are going to track you down like a chicken and kill you," was the threat, said the clerk, who was online at the time and saw the exchange.



But Armanious refused to back down, according to two sources who use the Web site.

Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah Healy would neither confirm nor deny that cops and prosecutors were looking into the religion motive, saying only that "nothing is being ruled out." But a relative of the mayor who answered the phone at Healy's home said there was information the murders were "religion-related."

"There are several theories we are looking into, but we are not commenting on any of them at this time," said Hudson County Assistant Prosecutor Guy Gregory.


Armanious' fervor apparently rubbed off on his daughter, Sylvia who would have turned 16 yesterday.

"She was very religious and very opinionated," said Jessica Cimino, 15, a fellow sophomore at Dickenson HS.

A family member who viewed photos of the bloodbath said Sylvia seemed to have taken the most savage punishment.

"When we saw the pictures, you could tell that they were hurt really, really bad in the face; especially Sylvia," said Milad Garas, the high-school sophomore's great-uncle.

The heartless killer not only slit Sylvia's throat, but also sliced a huge gash in her chest and stabbed her in the wrist, where she had a tattoo of a Coptic cross.

Also found murdered were the wife, Amal Garas, and the parents' other daughter, Monica.

Fred Ayed, the deacon at St. George and St. Shenouda Church, where the deeply religious family attended services, said he's worried that the murders could have a ripple effect.

"I am concerned for the safety of our community," said Ayed, who knew Hossam for 30 years. "People are scared because one family was slain like cows," said Moheb Ghabour, publisher of a local newspaper for the Coptic community.

Osama Hassan, director of the Islamic Center of Jersey City, described the relationship between Copts and Muslims as cooperative if not friendly.

"I think there might be people that can get into physical fights, but not to the point of murder," Hassan said.

Both the deacon and uncle poured cold water on the theory that the family were the victims of a robbery gone wrong.

"This is not a robbery, Ayed said. "We found all of the jewelry in the house. They didn't take anything."

The FBI confirmed it has been called in to help with the case.


Additional reporting by Heather Gilmore
While the MSM talks about Brad Pitt or some stupid awards show this gets buried. wonder why.
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Old 01-16-2005, 10:43 PM   #2
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Hate-crime it would seem, but terrorist-related? I know you want to tie every crime committed this side of jaywalking to al qaeda, but c'mon...
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:18 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Chuk
While the MSM talks about Brad Pitt or some stupid awards show this gets buried. wonder why.
I have no damn idea. I could give a shit if Brad and Jennifer get divorced. You think if I got a divorce it would make national headlines? The celebrity craze in this country is sickening. The people would rather know who Angelina Jolie is screwing than about atrocities being commited worldwide or, god forbid, voting.
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:11 PM   #4
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ABC News has learned that the slain family's cousin has been a translator working for the prosecution in the trial of Lynne Stewart. She is the radical lawyer accused of smuggling messages from imprisoned Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, to terrorist cell members and associates.
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