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Old 12-16-2009, 05:12 AM   #1
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I've just seen Avatar the movie, an interesting story and visually pleasing. I guess i can't give too much away but I'll say at times you can sense the protagonists feeling their way in lesser scenes mid-movie, the role characterisation is breaking new territory. This is a point in favor really because you realise the storyline is original, dramatisation by the actors had to make their part believable at times it looked awkward but the movie solidifies again.

Overall theme: Nature does it better. There are signs of anthropological input in the story development, it brings the movie point of view into personal space and lets camera work provide spectacle.

I liked it, I will see it again
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Old 12-16-2009, 07:27 AM   #2
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I've just seen Avatar the movie, an interesting story and visually pleasing. I guess i can't give too much away but I'll say at times you can sense the protagonists feeling their way in lesser scenes mid-movie, the role characterisation is breaking new territory. This is a point in favor really because you realise the storyline is original, dramatisation by the actors had to make their part believable at times it looked awkward but the movie solidifies again.

Overall theme: Nature does it better. There are signs of anthropological input in the story development, it brings the movie point of view into personal space and lets camera work provide spectacle.

I liked it, I will see it again
Dude. It's Pocahantas in space. How much more original can you get?
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:20 AM   #3
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I'm leery of any movie that focuses its marketing on its being "the future of movies." I'm quite sure it will be visually impressive (as well it should with that budget), but I have reservations about the likely quality of the storytelling. I'm sure I'll wind up seeing it eventually though, via Netflix if nothing else.
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:27 PM   #4
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Dude. It's Pocahantas in space. How much more original can you get?
I haven't seen it yet but everyone refers to it as Dances with Wolves/Run of the Arrow in space. Not that different from Pocahontas. And let's not forget Little Big Man. Personally I hoped for a less colorful and eerier movie, and I am not than keen on CGI driven characters, but I think I'll go see it anyway.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:41 AM   #5
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Good man, this movie is more than just another love story about finding love across the other side of the river. I can see how people find the parallel with Dances With Wolves, the film treatment is not derived though. Opening a 'Pandora's box' as consequence is an added twist on ignoring foreign culture over self-interest here... but, Bows and Arrows versus Gunships love makes a stand aside, that's about it as far as Dances with Wolves goes.

Here is a different story treatment, albeit with familiar dramatic elements that are not all completely cliche though perhaps somewhat hackneyed. Film can suffer from over using graphic short-hand (direction) and conversely add scenes suffering over-use of dialogue (Soapies for example). You take a breath and dip a toe in.

This movie wasn't bad.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:43 AM   #6
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:32 PM   #7
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I've actually heard that it's more DUNE than DANCES... That being said, I'd like to see it on the huge screen.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:13 PM   #8
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Visually extremely effective - but from an old sci-fi fan, been there, done that, read the t-shirt ... LOL ... in my mind very derivative of tons of not only sci-fi stuff, but even nature vs. technology themes. It WAS enjoyable to watch, though and even though the story in my mind was not at all original, like many basic themes (rom coms where they hate each other only to be destined for each other for example) it is still a decent movie.
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Old 12-19-2009, 04:06 AM   #9
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I'll just maintain there isn't any other Avatar movie but this one. With quite the same development of ideas specific to the story of Alien culture, eco-attunement in the dna, corporate human/tribal alien Land Rights struggle, and batshit crazy redemption through a planet-wide aggro aftermath. If anything the pandemonium should have followed through on a more comprehensive development of detail.

I accept that our use of 'original' can vary the subject, mine is concerned with 'storyline' as distinct from 'story told' and I stand by my naive assertion that this story develops original imagery as linear features of its discoursive language.
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:24 PM   #10
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See the 3d version. I just saw in a regular theatre, I can't imagine what it is like in an IMAX.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:51 PM   #11
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See the 3d version. I just saw in a regular theatre, I can't imagine what it is like in an IMAX.
I agree. I just saw it tonight and was just amazed. I so wish there was an IMAX theater nearby! Of course, I made the mistake of cracking the seal halfway through, so had to make 2 additional trips to the restroom.

But I found myself forgetting that I was watching CGI quite early on. The attention to detail was awesome, and I really felt that this place could really exist.

I HIGHLY recommend it!
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:19 PM   #12
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I like it, great visual affects and good story. Only complaint I have is that they could have gone more in depth in the story line.. some background on the natives would have been very interesting, and more development along the abilities they have would have been nice.
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Old 01-02-2010, 04:52 PM   #13
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Imax 3D - visually amazing(reserved seating FTW). This is the first "3D" movie that's actually "worked" for me. I have 1 weak eye that even wearing glasses won't correct the vision (weak muscles for focusing) and any time I've seen so called 3D movies I get wicked headaches. The blue/red glasses are the worst.

These are more the gray style polarized and they worked fairly well for me. I was blown away right at the start when they were getting out of Cryosleep and got the sense of depth inside the ship.

The story itself was fairly predictable and it's too bad that they used cookie cutter secondary characters (although Sigourney's character wasn't so bad) for the military and greedy corporate guy.

Typical big battle scenario - good guys start strong, bad guys come back and start whipping ass, then the good guys find a way to come back(I won't spoil it but again you'll probably guess how it'll turn around) to win.

So, plot/script is a bit cliche but passable/stomachable. The visuals of the planet/animals/plants - excellent. A little on the long side of things though...do not get that big gulp soda unless you have a catheter or something.
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:02 PM   #14
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I just have to say OMFG!!!!!

I just did an IMDB on Avatar to check out some of the actors...so checking out Sam Worthington I see:

  1. Clash of the Titans (2010) (post-production) .... Perseus

OMFG!!!! /happy dance

I loved the original stop motion CotT and have it on DVD...but I just had a small jizz when I read that! Now to see if there are trailers!
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:24 PM   #15
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There are.. its looks really well done.
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I'm suprised you didn't see the trailers for CotT before Avatar. It looks like it will be a very well done remake.

Also, watch out for the other 1980's remakes/Reboots coming our way:

Flight of the Navigator (dunno why, but imagine it will look better)
Karate Kid (Using Kung Foo rather than Karate, but what the hey)
Wierd Science (be interesting who they use in Kelly LeBrock's role)
Predators (why?)
Alien (Again, why?)
Fletch (really?)
Highlander (This makes me sad. The original is still just awesome goodness and doesn't need a remake)
Total Recall (Vin Diesel, maybe?)
Masters of the Universe (They've GOT to be able to do a better job this time around)
Evil Dead (they just should touch cult classics)
A Nightmare on Elm Street (see above)
Conan (serously????)
Red Dawn (This website has some great critiques about remaking this one and a couple others listed here)
Fright Night (*sigh* They should just leave this one alone. The one and only time Amanda Bearse looked cute/hot and not a raging lesbo)

And my FAVORITE remake on it's way...

Top Gun (Maverick is now Viper, and Tom's wife is the new Maverick - Play on Palen, anyone?)
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:05 AM   #17
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The CotT trailer has been on quicktime.com for a while. I've watched the original a few times. Even though it was a horrible movie, it was entertaining in a weird sort of way.

As for Avatar, I saw it a week or two ago in IMAX 3D and wasn't too impressed. The 3D effects become boring after an hour and then the story is supposed to keep you entertained for the following 2 hours, which it doesn't. I found the movie to be more similar to Little Big Man than any of the previously mentioned films and it's full of boring stereotypes and Hollywood cliches.
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There were no trailers shown when I saw Avatar. There was about a 4 minute laser show commercial for IMAX, which we were sitting in.
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Old 01-04-2010, 07:16 AM   #19
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There were no trailers shown when I saw Avatar. There was about a 4 minute laser show commercial for IMAX, which we were sitting in.
We got 3D trailers of Alice in Wonderland and How to Train Your Dragon, aside from the normal trailers.
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Funny:
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That's funny Ogmuk! I JUST saw that posted on FireFlyFans.net... LOL!
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Heh, was just about to post a link to that myself, fortunately, I checked the thread first.

Still, I did enjoy Avatar quite a bit.
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I just have to say OMFG!!!!!

I just did an IMDB on Avatar to check out some of the actors...so checking out Sam Worthington I see:

  1. Clash of the Titans (2010) (post-production) .... Perseus

OMFG!!!! /happy dance

I loved the original stop motion CotT and have it on DVD...but I just had a small jizz when I read that! Now to see if there are trailers!
Have you been yelling "Unleash the Kraken" to your partner ever since?
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I would think "Open that Kraken" makes more sense.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:28 PM   #25
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Isn't the original Clash of the Titans that the movie with young Ursula Andress foreshadowed as a split second image of a young mammy holding some newb to a magnificent pair of bare upper chest area gender differences in a flagrant attempt to express her acting moment through those glands??
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