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Drysdale · 01-17-2008, 06:17 PM

PALMER –—A 13-year-old Sutton girl is being held in the Mat-Su Youth Facility after two boys said she sexually assaulted them on a school bus.

The boys, also 13, of Sutton, said the girl touched them over their clothing, Palmer Police Det. Kelly Turney said. Police went to Palmer Junior Middle School Jan. 9 to investigate and ended up arresting the girl.

Turney said little information could be released about the incident since all the involved parties are juveniles and

that a press release discussing the case was necessarily brief and vague.

“All people see is what we can
release, but I can tell you it’s not that simple,” Turney said.

He said officers weighed the facts of the case and decided that two charges of second-degree harassment and one each of second-degree sexual assault and attempted second-degree sexual assault were appropriate.

“You balance the public safety, the safety of the victims and then you take a look at those and you balance those with what’s going to be the best decision to be made to reach those goals,” Turney said.

Officer discretion allows for a range of options, he said, from issuing a verbal warning and releasing the suspect to his or her parents on one end to putting the suspect in jail on the other.

Turney said that while he could not discuss the specifics of the evidence collected, in this case the facts justified incarcerating the girl.

“In general, if you have an instance where a behavior is occurring and another person, whether it be an adult or a juvenile, and that behavior is asked to cease and that behavior continues ... you have to follow through on that,” Turney said.

The detective has heard a little of what the community has been saying publicly about the arrest and some folks seem upset officers arrested a 13-year-old girl. But police, he said, are gender-blind.

“Reverse the genders and if a boy, generally speaking, if a boy touches a girl inappropriately on the school bus and the school district and the police don’t take action, can you imagine the outcry there would be?” Turney said.

Turney said Wednesday that no bail amount has been set for the girl.

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles...c212715178.txt

Can you say Wah?

furo · 01-17-2008, 07:45 PM

The penalty should be based on how ugly she is.

If she's a 10: She gets No jail time. Released to parents. The Boys given wedgies every day until they graduate.

If she's a 5: She gets a slap on the wrist. Released to parents. The boys given a lecture on what it takes to be a man.

If she's a 3 or below: She gets Max sentence. Boys given a pat on the back for standing up to aggression in society.

Drysdale · 01-18-2008, 03:32 AM

That thought crossed my mind.

Everclear · 01-18-2008, 05:02 PM

So only boys should be publically humiliated and degraded for sexual activities like this? I don't think so. The law should be gender blind... and you guys are the same ones whining about socity's double standards with sex and babies... and now making fun of the alw protecting boys in the arena of sexuality? Make up your damn mind!

furo · 01-18-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Everclear

So only boys should be publically humiliated and degraded for sexual activities like this? I don't think so. The law should be gender blind... and you guys are the same ones whining about socity's double standards with sex and babies... and now making fun of the alw protecting boys in the arena of sexuality? Make up your damn mind!

Well if she's 18, I'm only blind to a certain point.

That point being: if she's hot or not.

Rheaton · 01-19-2008, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Everclear

So only boys should be publically humiliated and degraded for sexual activities like this? I don't think so. The law should be gender blind... and you guys are the same ones whining about socity's double standards with sex and babies... and now making fun of the alw protecting boys in the arena of sexuality? Make up your damn mind!

This goes without saying. The point is that the boys told her to stop and she didnt.

Pinching someone on the butt shouldnt be sexual harassment to the degree these zealots are trying to make it out to be. But when you tell someone to "STOP!" and they dont, then you have a problem.

Aerrow Trueflight · 01-19-2008, 07:48 PM

you all act like you have never dated before. Sheesh.

They are younglings. And even if the girl was hidious, your wang dont descriminate, it just wants to be played with.

Ice Weasel X · 01-19-2008, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Aerrow Trueflight

And even if the girl was hidious, your wang dont descriminate, it just wants to be played with.

Fail.

Shylodog · 01-20-2008, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by Aerrow Trueflight

They are younglings

Too much Episode III.

Everclear · 01-20-2008, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by Rheaton

This goes without saying. The point is that the boys told her to stop and she didnt.

That is my point. If this was reversed and it had been a boy harassing girls, he would have been thrown to the wolves. A girl should be treated the same. Boys shouldn't be the only ones that are treated this way by the law!

Camien Ta`Mire · 01-20-2008, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Rheaton

This goes without saying. The point is that the boys told her to stop and she didnt.

Pinching someone on the butt shouldnt be sexual harassment to the degree these zealots are trying to make it out to be. But when you tell someone to "STOP!" and they dont, then you have a problem.

Exactly where in the article did it say what she did? I would assume that since the "harassment" occurred on the school bus, that the children were probably sitting, therefor making a "pinch on the butt" impossible. Also, I don't thinik that authorities would actually have arrested her if that was all she did.

ShardmoonVer.1 · 01-20-2008, 12:38 PM

Arresting her was probably a good idea. Young kids usually get sexualized through abuse and it will give them time to investigate. 12 years old may not seem that young, but based on her behaviour I would say she is probably immature.

Everclear · 01-20-2008, 02:42 PM

Well, at 12 it might be too late. She might already be a crackwhore on her way to hard time... but you never know.

ShardmoonVer.1 · 01-20-2008, 02:55 PM

Nah. Palmer is weed country and some meth. Its where Alaska holds their state fairs and is mostly fields. Not enough repeat business to support crack dealerships.

01-17-2008, 06:17 PM	#1
Drysdale RSS Feed Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,628	Fags! PALMER –—A 13-year-old Sutton girl is being held in the Mat-Su Youth Facility after two boys said she sexually assaulted them on a school bus. The boys, also 13, of Sutton, said the girl touched them over their clothing, Palmer Police Det. Kelly Turney said. Police went to Palmer Junior Middle School Jan. 9 to investigate and ended up arresting the girl. Turney said little information could be released about the incident since all the involved parties are juveniles and that a press release discussing the case was necessarily brief and vague. “All people see is what we can release, but I can tell you it’s not that simple,” Turney said. He said officers weighed the facts of the case and decided that two charges of second-degree harassment and one each of second-degree sexual assault and attempted second-degree sexual assault were appropriate. “You balance the public safety, the safety of the victims and then you take a look at those and you balance those with what’s going to be the best decision to be made to reach those goals,” Turney said. Officer discretion allows for a range of options, he said, from issuing a verbal warning and releasing the suspect to his or her parents on one end to putting the suspect in jail on the other. Turney said that while he could not discuss the specifics of the evidence collected, in this case the facts justified incarcerating the girl. “In general, if you have an instance where a behavior is occurring and another person, whether it be an adult or a juvenile, and that behavior is asked to cease and that behavior continues ... you have to follow through on that,” Turney said. The detective has heard a little of what the community has been saying publicly about the arrest and some folks seem upset officers arrested a 13-year-old girl. But police, he said, are gender-blind. “Reverse the genders and if a boy, generally speaking, if a boy touches a girl inappropriately on the school bus and the school district and the police don’t take action, can you imagine the outcry there would be?” Turney said. Turney said Wednesday that no bail amount has been set for the girl. http://www.frontiersman.com/articles...c212715178.txt Can you say Wah? __________________ "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert A. Heinlein "Thou shalt not steal. Except by majority vote." - Gary North

01-18-2008, 03:32 AM	#3
Drysdale RSS Feed Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,628	That thought crossed my mind. __________________ "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert A. Heinlein "Thou shalt not steal. Except by majority vote." - Gary North

01-18-2008, 05:02 PM	#4
Everclear Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 6,910	So only boys should be publically humiliated and degraded for sexual activities like this? I don't think so. The law should be gender blind... and you guys are the same ones whining about socity's double standards with sex and babies... and now making fun of the alw protecting boys in the arena of sexuality? Make up your damn mind! __________________ Once is an anomoly, twice is a statistic, three times is the imminent takeover of the Devil. -Kulani

01-18-2008, 06:33 PM	#5
furo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,740	Originally Posted by Everclear So only boys should be publically humiliated and degraded for sexual activities like this? I don't think so. The law should be gender blind... and you guys are the same ones whining about socity's double standards with sex and babies... and now making fun of the alw protecting boys in the arena of sexuality? Make up your damn mind! Well if she's 18, I'm only blind to a certain point. That point being: if she's hot or not.

01-19-2008, 04:20 PM	#6
Rheaton Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,366	Originally Posted by Everclear So only boys should be publically humiliated and degraded for sexual activities like this? I don't think so. The law should be gender blind... and you guys are the same ones whining about socity's double standards with sex and babies... and now making fun of the alw protecting boys in the arena of sexuality? Make up your damn mind! This goes without saying. The point is that the boys told her to stop and she didnt. Pinching someone on the butt shouldnt be sexual harassment to the degree these zealots are trying to make it out to be. But when you tell someone to "STOP!" and they dont, then you have a problem. __________________ "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." (1st Corinthians 2:14) :9

01-17-2008, 07:45 PM	#2
furo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,740	The penalty should be based on how ugly she is. If she's a 10: She gets No jail time. Released to parents. The Boys given wedgies every day until they graduate. If she's a 5: She gets a slap on the wrist. Released to parents. The boys given a lecture on what it takes to be a man. If she's a 3 or below: She gets Max sentence. Boys given a pat on the back for standing up to aggression in society.

01-19-2008, 07:48 PM	#7
Aerrow Trueflight Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 346	you all act like you have never dated before. Sheesh. They are younglings. And even if the girl was hidious, your wang dont descriminate, it just wants to be played with. __________________ My cats name is Jesus. I do not worship my cat. My dogs name is Allah. I do not worship my dog. My fishes name is God. I do not worship my fish. I clean up their shit. Nothing more.

01-19-2008, 08:21 PM	#8
Ice Weasel X Banned User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,799	Originally Posted by Aerrow Trueflight And even if the girl was hidious, your wang dont descriminate, it just wants to be played with. Fail. __________________ SMS Text Responder - Convenience and Safety for any Android phone, ad-free. If you have any questions that aren't answered by the app description, feel free to ask. I have no financial stake in it, but I am the primary tester.

01-20-2008, 01:19 AM	#9
Shylodog Supporter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,377	Originally Posted by Aerrow Trueflight They are younglings Too much Episode III. __________________ Shylodog Wamphyri 66 Arch Convoker (Retired) Originally Posted by Hormadrune Write it down- Chuk made me lolirl Originally Posted by Drysdale To bumbleroot: Know what? You're right. I DID misread your statement and I DO apologize.

01-20-2008, 04:16 AM	#10
Everclear Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 6,910	Originally Posted by Rheaton This goes without saying. The point is that the boys told her to stop and she didnt. That is my point. If this was reversed and it had been a boy harassing girls, he would have been thrown to the wolves. A girl should be treated the same. Boys shouldn't be the only ones that are treated this way by the law! __________________ Once is an anomoly, twice is a statistic, three times is the imminent takeover of the Devil. -Kulani

01-20-2008, 11:55 AM	#11
Camien Ta`Mire Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Reidsville, GA Posts: 874	Originally Posted by Rheaton This goes without saying. The point is that the boys told her to stop and she didnt. Pinching someone on the butt shouldnt be sexual harassment to the degree these zealots are trying to make it out to be. But when you tell someone to "STOP!" and they dont, then you have a problem. Exactly where in the article did it say what she did? I would assume that since the "harassment" occurred on the school bus, that the children were probably sitting, therefor making a "pinch on the butt" impossible. Also, I don't thinik that authorities would actually have arrested her if that was all she did. __________________ High Priest Camien Ta`Mire Nightblade Mukal Ta`Mire Grand Occultist Dekayd Ta`Mire Valiant Milander Truewield Ne Cede Malice (Insert witty saying here.)

01-20-2008, 12:38 PM	#12
ShardmoonVer.1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 7,457	Arresting her was probably a good idea. Young kids usually get sexualized through abuse and it will give them time to investigate. 12 years old may not seem that young, but based on her behaviour I would say she is probably immature. __________________ If you don't have something good to say about some one, say it loud.

01-20-2008, 02:42 PM	#13
Everclear Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 6,910	Well, at 12 it might be too late. She might already be a crackwhore on her way to hard time... but you never know. __________________ Once is an anomoly, twice is a statistic, three times is the imminent takeover of the Devil. -Kulani

01-20-2008, 02:55 PM	#14
ShardmoonVer.1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 7,457	Nah. Palmer is weed country and some meth. Its where Alaska holds their state fairs and is mostly fields. Not enough repeat business to support crack dealerships. __________________ If you don't have something good to say about some one, say it loud.

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