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Old 11-20-2006, 06:10 AM   #1
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Default lets take a vote

Should we draft Charles Rangel?
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:24 AM   #2
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Old 11-20-2006, 07:06 AM   #3
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I vote for you to be drafted.
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:17 AM   #4
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One serious concern I have about presidential power (and this was abused by Clinton as well as Bush) is that a "undeclared war" tends to give the President both broad powers and a decent short-term boost in the polls. It's easy to order a few airstrikes or send in some troops, and as long as casualties are reasonably low, folks feel patriotic & "support the President".

Let's ignore Iraq for the moment (and I think Afganistan was clearly necessary) - I'm thinking more of Somilia, Haiti, and the various CNN-victim-of-the-month spots.

It's become too easy & pain-free for America to fight wars of convienence. There's no need to worry about the money spent. After all, we can leave that as debt for our kids to pay off. If some soldiers get killed, well, war is dangerous and they knew about the risks when they signed up. So there's really not much incentive for the President to really think about "Is this war vital to US's interests?". Instead, it's trading a few lives and a few billion bucks for a chance to look decisive and tough, and keep the media focused on rallying the people behind the flag.

That said, reinstating the draft is a dumb idea. Soldiers of today need to be highly trained & motivated (and they are - the troops we have are definitely top notch). It's a shame we can't get politicians of the same caliber.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:12 AM   #5
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Rangel already served. He's got a little credibility on this issue.
This also is an issue that he has been pounding since the beginning of Iraq. His point is that going into war with conscriptions will not be as easy a choice on the public. It will avoid any wars of choice.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:19 AM   #6
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All this will end up doing is increase Canada's population.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:34 AM   #7
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Well then our unemployment rate should go down.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:40 AM   #8
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Maybe... but probably because it's the low income/unemployed that might be more likely to be drafted and not have the resources to relocate.
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