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Old 08-19-2004, 12:56 PM   #1
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Default I smell a flip flop on the way

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ugs/index.html

By the way, can anyone tell me how the same drugs manufactured by these American companies become magically unsafe as they are shipped over borders?
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:10 PM   #2
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There is a huge issue with a large number of drugs available outside US borders being generics manufactured in countries like India and Pakistan, which may or may not be up to the original manufacturers specs, and the FDA hasn't certified.
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:17 PM   #3
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According to the article it's not about drugs being produced in foreign countries that may or may not meet certain standards, but rather reimportation of drugs.
The pharmaceutical industry opposes allowing reimportation of drugs, saying the price differences between countries reflect market forces and allow companies to recoup their research costs for new drugs.




Why should they lose out on their opportunity to price gouge American consumers?
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:19 PM   #4
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So, you're against outsourcing, but all for importing prescription drugs. Yep, you smelled a flip-flop alright. Not all of the drugs are American-made either, but I would expect everything to be held to the same standard.
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:20 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Vireil
According to the article it's not about drugs being produced in foreign countries that may or may not meet certain standards, but rather reimportation of drugs.
Actually, it's about both, they just want to cover all their bases.
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:22 PM   #6
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Not all of the drugs are American-made either,
Care to explain to me how reimported drugs are not American-made?
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:22 PM   #7
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Very simple Bumble. I live near the Mexico border. Our local news did a report on it and they had labs test name brand medicines from Mexico compared with the ones in the US. The components in some of the drugs were dramatically different, they were not made the same ergo some of the strengths were way off. Say your doctor prescribes you 20 mg of heart medicine, you buy it in Mexico and theirs contains only partial the component that works, you can suffer healthwise. I am not sure about drugs incoming from Canada. Maybe Luri would know more if they report near him.

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http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/border/32320.php
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:24 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Vireil
According to the article it's not about drugs being produced in foreign countries that may or may not meet certain standards, but rather reimportation of drugs.
Hmmm...that's not what the President says.

"What I don't want to do is be the president that says we'll allow for importation, and all of a sudden drugs that are manufactured somewhere else come in over the Internet and it begins to harm our citizens," (Bush) said.
Bolding mine.
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:27 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by bumbler
Care to explain to me how reimported drugs are not American-made?
Certainly.
Originally Posted by the article you linked
Critics have charged that the safety issue is a red herring, noting that most of the drugs in question are actually made by U.S. manufacturers and exported to Canada and other countries.
Most != all, numbnuts.
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:38 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Alauradana
I am not sure about drugs incoming from Canada. Maybe Luri would know more if they report near him.
I haven't read any reports concerning drugs coming from Canada aside from illegal drugs such as heroin and marijauna (sp?).
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Old 08-19-2004, 02:21 PM   #11
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*** ..:: Quoting the article you linked ::..
Critics have charged that the safety issue is a red herring, noting that most of the drugs in question are actually made by U.S. manufacturers and exported to Canada and other countries.
**** ..:: End Quote ::..
Most != all, numbnuts.
Are you trying to support me on this? Because I asked how the drugs are unsafe and you link a claim they are safe. I mentioned that the drugs are made in America and it supports that.
I appreciate you for your support on this Wil. Next time perhaps you shouldn't clarify your support with a derogatory term. It doesn't do much for supporting your own case.

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Old 08-19-2004, 07:20 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by bumbler
Are you trying to support me on this?
Yeah, I'm right behind you 110% Now quit screamin', it only hurts the first time.
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Because I asked how the drugs are unsafe and you link a claim they are safe.
Wrong, you asked: "Care to explain to me how reimported drugs are not American-made?" to which I responded with a quote showing you that not all the drugs are American-made. I made no assertions to their safety.
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It doesn't do much for supporting your own case.
Oh, was my calling you numbnuts derogatory? From the way you act, I figured I was spot-on.
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