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Old 05-24-2004, 12:25 AM   #1
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Default Moore for president!!

Ok, maybe not, but he won in Cannes.

Monday May 24 2:00 AM ET


Once again, Michael Moore's political views have landed him on center stage.

Fahrenheit 9/11, the filmmaker's scathing indictment of the Bush administration's policies before and after September 11, captured Cannes' top honor Saturdaythe coveted Palme d'Or.

Jury president Quentin Tarantino was quick to defend the jury's selection of the film, claiming the choice had nothing to do with Moore's left-leaning politics; rather that the film was simply the best picture screened at the festival.


"When I was on stage with Michael Moore, I knew all this politics crap would be brought up," Tarantino said Sunday.

"I just whispered in his ear and said, `I just want you to know it was not because of the politics that you won this award. You won it because we thought it was the best film that we saw.'"

Moore, for his part, was initially shocked nearly speechless by his victory.

"What have you done?" the director asked of the jury. "I am completely overwhelmed by this."

The film has yet to find a U.S. distributor after Disney banned Miramax from distributing it due to its controversial content. Moore said he was confident that the prestige of the Palme d'Or would help him get his oeuvre to American movie screens.

"I have a sneaking suspicion that you've ensured that the American people will see this film," Moore said in his acceptance speech.

"You've put a huge light on this, you've taken truth out of the closet. A Republican president once said, 'If you just give people the truth the Republic will be saved.' That was Abraham Lincoln, a different kind of Republican than George Bush."

Moore's victory marks the first time a documentary has been awarded the top prize in almost 50 years. (Jacques Cousteau's The Silent World was the last doc to snare the Palme d'Or.)

Apart from Moore's victory, Cannes was dominated by its Asian entrants. The runner-up Grand Prix prize was awarded to Korean director Park Chan Wook, for his film, Old Boy. The movie tells the story of a man imprisoned in a shoddy jail for 15 years and his quest for revenge,

Asians also captured both acting awards. Maggie Cheung won Best Actress for her role in French director Olivier Assayas' Clean, the story of a drug-addicted rocker trying to clean up her act.

Twelve-year-old Yagira Yuuya was honored with the Best Actor award for his role in Nobody Knows, the tale of four children trying to survive after being abandoned by their mother.

Here's a complete roundup of the 2004 Cannes winners:


Palme d'Or: Fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore

Grand Prix: Old Boy by Park Chan Wook

Best Actress: Maggie Cheung, Clean

Best Actor: Yagira Yuuya, Nobody Knows

Best Director: Tony Gatlif, Exils

Best Screenplay: Comme une Image by Agnes Jaoui and Jean-Pierre Bacri

Jury Prize (tied): Apichatpong Weerasethakul (director), Tropical Malady; Irma P. Hall (actress), The Ladykillers
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:46 AM   #2
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Hopefully some slimfast and a razor comes with the prize. Never mind, he would just make a film about how slimfast causes cancer in Canadian Squirrels and razors were once used to shave hippies in the Nixon administration.
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Old 05-24-2004, 07:35 AM   #3
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Once again proof that France has no taste for talent.
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Old 05-24-2004, 07:41 AM   #4
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Trith, the president of the jury was... Quentin Tarantino
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Old 05-24-2004, 08:12 AM   #5
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Quentin Tarrintino hangs out on the set of American Idol..... for the music. That should clear up any misconceptions about him being qualified to judge talent or quality entertainment.
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Old 05-24-2004, 08:42 AM   #6
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I like Tarantino's movies, but I too was more than a bit put off by his willing association with that shitstain TV program
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I don't understand the dislike with American idol other than it being a pop culture thing and therefore raising the ire of those who tend to stray from pop culture. With a few notable exceptions, the finalists on the show are actually very talented people.
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:06 AM   #8
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American Idol is Karoake without the alcohol. Its marketing and politics aimed at an audience that finds actual thought challenging. Lounge singers on a bigger stage and with less artistic integrity.

American Idol is a joke until they remove the age restrictions and make them perform their own material. Until then its Madison Avenue Idol.
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:46 AM   #9
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I tried out for American Idol...

Does that make me a bad person?....
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:49 AM   #10
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:57 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by ShardmoonVer.1
American Idol is Karoake without the alcohol. Its marketing and politics aimed at an audience that finds actual thought challenging. Lounge singers on a bigger stage and with less artistic integrity.

American Idol is a joke until they remove the age restrictions and make them perform their own material. Until then its Madison Avenue Idol.
So because they dont write their own material and they are young then they are not talented?
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Old 05-24-2004, 10:23 AM   #12
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being able to sing and having the artistic creativity of a paper clip is about as good as having access to loads of paint and canvas but not being able to paint.
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Old 05-24-2004, 10:23 AM   #13
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American Idol is nothing more than a bad combination of The Gong Show and Star Search . The worst part about this show is that its on many times a week seemingly all year round. They also have the most washed up guest celebrities show up and the 'singers' sing the crappiest cheesiest songs imaginable. wedding singers laugh at their selection. They got some host who yells insults at the kids and you feel like saying "uh who the fuck are you to criticize their talents?"

(BTW i have never seen one episode of American Idol but i watch extra extra on NBC which does reports about American Idol on a daily basis.)
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So because they dont write their own material and they are young then they are not talented?
Nope- but until they lift those restrictions and have people use their own material it is what it is: a karaoke contest for high school and college chorus kids. The fact that some people let a phone-voted karaoke contest dictate what is popular music is a sad testament to the state of commercial music production today.
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Old 05-24-2004, 03:07 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Hormadrune
Nope- but until they lift those restrictions and have people use their own material it is what it is: a karaoke contest for high school and college chorus kids. The fact that some people let a phone-voted karaoke contest dictate what is popular music is a sad testament to the state of commercial music production today.
So my point is proven? You dislike it because it is pop culture...
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The entire concept is patronizing and low brow. It completely avoids creativity and strives for mediocrity. Just like most other reality based TV shows its contributing to the dumbing down of America.

We use to make Dylans in this country, now we make Clay Aikens.
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Originally Posted by ShardmoonVer.1
The entire concept is patronizing and low brow. It completely avoids creativity and strives for mediocrity. Just like most other reality based TV shows its contributing to the dumbing down of America.

We use to make Dylans in this country, now we make Clay Aikens.
And what is wrong with Clay Aiken? He may not be your style but he is without a doubt a talented singer. If you measure talent by one's ability to write music then you are going to have to discredit a large number of very talented and successful singers. And besides, the show has made no qualms about the fact that they are looking for a *pop* idol.
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Clay Aikens is a tape recorder. A parrot at best, a thief at worst. Yes, he can "sing", but so can 2000 lounge acts in Vegas. He is a puppet who's strings are being pulled by advertising and marketing gurus. He is just another New Kid on the Block without 4 other guys to share the blame with.
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If by "pop culture" you mean shitty imitation R&B Trech, then yes, I fucking despise it
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Old 05-24-2004, 04:51 PM   #20
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He is just another New Kid on the Block without 4 other guys to share the blame with.
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I personally think you guys just don't like pop music. I'm not a huge fan but I listen to the local pop station and I like a lot of the music. I'm not going to discount an American Idol winner because they have others write their music for them. At least these guys have talent, unlike a lot of manufactured pop artists out today.

As far as your reference to Dylan, he is a perfect example of someone who should have been the guy in the back writing the music for others instead of singing it.
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Old 05-24-2004, 06:47 PM   #22
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If you need perfect pitch to be successful then dust off your Donnie and Marie records and have a blast. I will take a Stevie Nicks type voice over 200 Kelly Clarksons. Britney Speares? She is a hooker that just happens to have a pimp with an MBA from Harvard Business School.

I lean towards the distinctive and some what interesting when it comes to music, not the processed and formula driven crap being marketed on American Idol.
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That's cool. I don't like most crap on the pop stations today either. I do like a good voice when I hear one though
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Originally Posted by ShardmoonVer.1
Britney Speares? She is a hooker that just happens to
have a pimp with an MBA from Harvard Business School.
Hey, Bush has an MBA from Harvard er,
never mind.


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Old 05-24-2004, 09:08 PM   #25
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Default Oh?

I thought Bush had that from Yale?
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