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That so-called idiot Bush tried to reform Freddie & Fanny in 2003 and it was killed by the democrats... The last paragraph is telling...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html? res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted =print
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oops.
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Nobody has brought this up in the news?
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Rush spent time on this today. He said that the Bush administration tried at least 9 times since 2003 to force some oversight on this industry, each time the Dems fighting against it using "affordable" housing for the poor as their excuse.
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Been on Fox Report in the evenings... twice.
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Only Rush and Fox? Wonder why that is.
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Do the elitist liberal puppet-masters fly around in sky-blue/cloud-white helicopters during the daytime? You guys seem like you might know.
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Does the Steam Vent's resident blowhard have anything relevant to offer?
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No. We've been through this...lets save the time and run through the basic outline: Horm calls us all paranoid whackjobs for thinking that most news organizations are biased, wobbles a bit, then finishes by pointing out that he doesn't watch any of these organizations either becuase they are crap.
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Originally Posted by Hormadrune
Just for your edification, sir - ![]()
From an article at Journalism.org politics and party affiliation in the media:
I'm curious, Horm, do you think we make this stuff up? When reporters are cheering along with the delegates at the Democrat National Convention? When a major news network anchor in his zeal to throw an election to the Democrats buys false documents and false allegations about Bush hook, line and sinker ? Media bias is there, and it's on all the networks, the major news websites, and it cloaks itself in 'journalistic integrity'. What does the political director of ABC have to say about all this?
Are you kidding me? And people have the gall to bitch about Fox? What about ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and most printed news sources in the country? I'm not a tinfoil hat guy, Horm, and I'm super glad when the local news investigative team goes after someone for stiffing people on their insurance policies. I think that's great.... But if you remotely think that such a thing as 'journalistic integrity' still exists in the media market today... well, I got a bridge to nowhere to sell you. |
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I see I touched a nerve, ladies. I'll wave to you from the 'copter while aiming my thought control beam this evening. 3rd shift is the best.
"GRAWRGHEGHSGHSERGH! MEDIA BAD 'CEPT RUSH & FOXY FOX! RAWGHERGHERURALLTURDBURGLERSRAWR!"
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Wow Horm, you surprise me. That was so incredibly not clever of you. I guess maybe you're trying to fill in some sort of troll gap on the boards, but could you at least try to be funny?
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http://www.erollisimarr.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=36425
To save time here's the last time Horm did this. He agrees that media is crap, but everyone else is paranoid and crazy for actually ever saying it. Seriously, even Axgar understands his own stuff better. |
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Originally Posted by Hormadrune
Here's the point, Horm - ![]()
WE ALL, all of us, are underserved by any 'news' organization with agenda reporting. Getting the issues is their job, and many times, those very issues conflict with their agenda. This isn't about demanding McCain or Palin get 'kid glove' treatment, it's about demanding the same tenacity and attention to detail from the "journalists" on the same serious issues when confronting their candidate Barack Obama. Instead, the cheerleading from the fucking NEWS anchor chair on these same networks for Obama is apalling. I'm not talking about the nitwits on The View, or the conservative imposter O'Reilly. I'm talking about the news anchor chair. Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann were selected as the anchors for the RNC? Isn't that like picking Bill O'Reilly as the anchor for the DNC? He's an opinion guy, not a fucking journalist. And here's the dirty little secret - Olbermann, Matthews and Maddow's coverage of the RNC was the dead-last in ratings. Why? Because they are all fucktards who can't function without drinking the Oh'bama KoolAid and the viewers want BETTER than that. Their ratings suffered because of it and Brian Williams had to go and lend some of his 'gravitas' just to get the network back on track. Holy fuckin' shit, what kinda circus is that? It's not about crying for 'fairness', it's about getting a straight story, and I have yet to get a straight fucking story from the vast majority of media outlets. I'll let you in on a little 'secret' - I listen to NPR frequently, especially shows like All Things Considered. They are all liberal cocksuckers, every one of them... but I can actually get a straight fucking story from some of those people. Amazing, huh? Big, bad "neocon" like me listens to pansy-ass Robert Segal. And when I see Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Mara Liasson, and Juan Williams tossing around issues with Brit Hume, I'm pretty comfortable with the information I get because their is at the very least a modicum of intelligent discussion. Lining up Sean Hannity with Alan Colmes, two stereotypes of the right and left, is not journalism, it's a left-handed Mongolian clusterfuck. Listening to Rush Limbaugh and ONLY Rush Limbaugh for all your news is such a bad mistake, I can't even quantify it unless I can use the term 'indoctrination'. It's an OPINION show, not a NEWS show. I listen to Glenn Beck because he's fuckin' funny but I'll never, ever mistake his shtick for journalism. We deserve better than what media has been handing us. I don't want a 'yes' man for McCain, I want a hard-ass motherfucker asking Oh'bama why the fuck are you consorting with a guy who used to plant fucking bombs. I want somebody sticking a mike in Oh'bama's face and ask him if he plans on throwing the election using ACORN! I want to know if McCain has got it through his thick skull that amnesty for illegals is FUCKING WRONG! Who the fuck is Tony Rezko, Oh'bama? Why didn't you vote for the reform bill for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 2005, Biden? Why the fuck did you two idiots vote TWICE for the bridge to nowhere? And, Sarah Palin, why the fuck did you bother with the bridge in the first place? I'm pissed about this shit because the very people who claim to be on our side, the 'heroic press', is fucking us just like the politicians. Media people? Just like lawyers. Worse, because at least I have an off chance of never seeing a fucking lawyer in my lifetime. How do you know when a reporter is lying? His lips are moving. What do you call a thousand reporters at the bottom of the ocean? A good start. We are getting shafted, Horm, by the hacks who couldn't give two shits about you and me but will lie, sensationalize, and omit those pesky facts because the 'inconvenient truth' will not get them that oh-so-lucrative book deal. Fuck the media, before they fuck you. |
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Can I marry you, Paf?
Well, my wife might object. Can I clone myself, and my clone can marry you? ![]() |
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Holy shit I think Pafuna just won the intraweb!
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Very nice post, Paf. I don't want to fucking marry you or anything, I'll just settle for a handshake. I'm sure Horm will come back with his cliched stance that he was the one that got you worked up.
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Almost forgot
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Originally Posted by Pafuna
Love your passion, couldn't agree more with the thoughts ... but ... you are WRONG!! ![]()
The media has NEVER been about "Journalistic integrity." That line of crap has been paraded around for decades as a great way to bullshit the population into believing there is some objectivity in reporting. True, SOME journalistists believe it, but the reality is that newspapers are just as capitalistic as anyone else - MAKING MONEY is their job. Look back through the history of this country ... Tories vs. Revolutionaries ... yellow journalism ... it's always been pretty biased by the folks that own the papers, it's just that some asshat decided the best way to lend some credibility to the business was to claim they actually had a "CODE" and therefore could be trusted to be "FAIR." HAH!! HAH HAH!! Small snippet of Wiki link to journalism
I think my point in this is that you should trust your journalists only a little more than you should trust your politicians ... only because your journalists make money when they expose your politicians for the corrupt S.O.B.s they are, whereas politicians are making money until they get caught ... |
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And the circle jerk goes on and on and on and on. You fellas must eat a lot of protein.
Best part of this thread are the absurdist assumptions some of you make in the course trying to paint me as little spoon to the media's big spoon. I'll reiterate: if you have such issues with the media. Don't. Fucking. Watch/read/listen/*. And encourage your friends to do the same. Because you know when the media will change? When their ratings/subscriptions/hits, and thereby their ability to sell ad space/time, tell them to change. By continuing to consume their products we're telling them they're doing a good job whether that's our opinion or not. By whining about it here all while continuing to support them through consumption, earns you my heart-felt poo-flinging.
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Originally Posted by Hormadrune
The ironic thing is that's how Rush & Fox have become such a success. They spotted a void, and filled it. The rest of the media can complain about how terribly they do their job and that their claims "Fair and Balanced" are the ultimate in deception, but... no one else is even trying to serve that 30-40% of the market, so they've got it all to themselves.![]()
Drudge is another interesting case study.
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Originally Posted by Hormadrune
If you have such issues with posts whining about the media. Don't. Fucking. Read.
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Oh c'mon Wild... Horm's being a GREAT Bumbles replacement! I expect him to break out the "Connieboyz" at any moment!
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