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Old 08-21-2012, 07:03 AM   #1
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Default Something stinks in Missouri

And it ain't Wildane this time!

http://washingtonexaminer.com/democr...3#.UDOiWKAZ8gd

Call it a wise investment in light of his recent comments: Democrats wanted Missouri Republican congressman Todd Akin to win his state’s hotly contested Senate GOP primary because they believed he gave incumbent Senator Claire McCaskill her best shot at retaining her seat. As the Washington Post reported earlier this month:
There’s a reason why Democrats spent over $1.5 million trying to help Akin win his three-way primary. He was the most conservative candidate in the field — and the most unpredictable one. He shook up his campaign staff late last year. He recently released a head-scratching and jumbled campaign ad. And Democrats have already launched a microsite highlighting his controversial statements that won’t play well with moderates. (“America has got the equivalent of the stage III cancer of socialism because the federal government is tampering in all kinds of stuff it has no business tampering in,” Akin once said.)
Here’s how the Democrats did it, running ads in the GOP primary that were intended to boost his appeal among the most conservative primary voters:
The latest example is a new radio ad paid for by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee that attacks Rep. Todd Akin (R), but does so slyly, in a manner that appears to be designed to endear him to conservative voters.
“Todd Akin calls himself the true conservative, but is he too conservative?” asks the narrator of the ad, which is approved by McCaskill’s campaign and paid for by the DSCC. The narrator goes on to note the negative posture Akin has taken toward President Obama, before concluding, “it’s no surprise Todd has been endorsed by the most conservative leaders in our country – Michele Bachmann and Mike Huckabee.”
Bachmann and Huckabee are popular among conservative voters and are from states in the same geographic region as Missouri. If anything, many undecided conservative primary voters who hear their names in the radio ad would be tempted to give him a closer look.
The Post notes that these ad buys were actually more that Akin spent on his own campaign:
According to a Republican strategist tracking ad buys in the race, McCaskill’s campaign and [the Democratic-aligned] Majority PAC have each spent about $850,000 on ads during the last two and a half weeks – more than Akin has spent on commercials during the entire campaign. So if Akin wins the primary, he might be able to credit some very unlikely allies.
While Democrats are now blasting Akin’s comments on “legitimate rape,” one person is resisting calls for Akin to step aside: Claire McCaskill:
Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., appeared on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” Monday, where she declined to weigh in on whether GOP Missouri Senate nominee Todd Akin should drop out in the wake of his controversial comments that “legitimate” rape can’t lead to pregnancy.
“It’s not my place to decide,” said McCaskill. “I really think that for the national party to try to come in here and dictate to the Republican primary voters that they’re going to invalidate their decision, that would be pretty radical. I think there could be a backlash for the Republicans if they did that.”
Forgive me for being cynical, but how often does McCaskill worry about the concerns of GOP primary voters? It is something to bear in mind as you read about the growing media frenzy over Akin’s remarks. He got the nomination in large part because the Democrats wanted him to win because they hoped he would say something really stupid. Lucky for them, he obliged. Now that he has, they don’t want him to go away because if he does, so does the controversy he created.
Politics is a cynical business.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:09 AM   #2
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So? McCaskill wants a loser to run against, because she is vulnerable.

If the GOP voters can be manipulated by their own party, why not hers? There's nothing wrong with boosting the opposition that you prefer to run against. It's just strategic.

It's up to the voters, ultimately... and if the GOP is foolish enough to have this bobblehead on their ticket, then that's their problem, maybe they shouldn't run idiots.

I think it's hilarious that one party runs such idiots, and yet it's questionable that the other party candidate would support them in self destructing? Hardly. Give someone enough rope....(btw these ads were running before his rape comment. I heard about this story last week or the week before)

BTW: From this article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...e9c_story.html

The controversy has become a distraction to Republican leaders as they are set to begin their Tampa convention next week and finalize the party’s platform, which will likely include language supporting a ban on abortion except when the mother’s life is in danger.
..so the GOP platform won't have exception for rape? Sounds like Akin spilled the beans on the GOP insider thinking. Can't wait until they codify this draconian thought into their party platform... with Romney and Ryan (who already voted to support ban without rape exemption) clamoring to distance themselves and claim they support such an exemption... it'll just be another situation where Romney says whatever he thinks people want to hear.

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Old 08-21-2012, 01:16 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Pinkheart View Post
It's up to the voters, ultimately... and if the GOP is foolish enough to have this bobblehead on their ticket, then that's their problem, maybe they shouldn't run idiots.
While not disagreeing on the bobblehead, remember that the party really doesn't control the outcome of the primary ... any "legitimate" candidate who gathers enough signatures can get on the ballot (of course it varies by state what legitimate is) but unless the party somehow disavows them as being a member of the party they can legitimately run under Repub/Demo, and once the primary is over, the party is kind of stuck with them.

The smoke-filled rooms where candidates were selected are now a thing of the past (mostly) but at least the "party" got who they wanted on the ticket.

So, to a certain extent, especially in an election where potentially a candidate of one party is running unopposed vs. a wide open race on the other side, to invest "excess" money to get the weakest opponent to win for the other side is definitely great strategy and TOTALLY against the principles we would all hope (but no longer expect) from our elected officials.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:25 PM   #4
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While not disagreeing on the bobblehead, remember that the party really doesn't control the outcome of the primary ... any "legitimate" candidate who gathers enough signatures can get on the ballot (of course it varies by state what legitimate is) but unless the party somehow disavows them as being a member of the party they can legitimately run under Repub/Demo, and once the primary is over, the party is kind of stuck with them.

The smoke-filled rooms where candidates were selected are now a thing of the past (mostly) but at least the "party" got who they wanted on the ticket.

So, to a certain extent, especially in an election where potentially a candidate of one party is running unopposed vs. a wide open race on the other side, to invest "excess" money to get the weakest opponent to win for the other side is definitely great strategy and TOTALLY against the principles we would all hope (but no longer expect) from our elected officials.
Not really. He didn't express a view that is politically contrary to the party platform... he just expressed it in a terrible way. He has been awful since the beginning of the primary. The party is distancing themselves because he will lose, not because he supports something against their platform.

When you court ignorant nuts, you know they are ignorant nuts, and then nominate ignorant nuts, it's your problem when they go around saying ignorant nutty things!

As far as supporting an opponent being against some principle... again, no it isn't. there is no ethical or principled reason why you can support a nominee of the other party when they choose to support radical wingdings. It's their fault. they put him up for the vote, he is a member of their party, supporting their ideas. She just helped get the word out on this guy. She didn't lie, cheat, or steal.

When you consider helping an opponent to be "unprincipled" because the opponent is so absurd- then the fault is with the sponsoring party. She just shined a light on the fruitcake and said "Hey! Look at the fruitcake over here they have running! Vote for this hot mess they put up here!" .. and the primary voters DID!

Congrats, your party is full of morons and just got schooled! (The party hung itself, McCaskill just gave them the rope to do it)- I also love how much influence McCaskill seems to have over GOP voters. As if the GOP wants to blame her for nominating this asshole.

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Old 08-21-2012, 07:21 AM   #5
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And it ain't Wildane this time!
I've never been to Missouri....
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:55 AM   #6
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Oh, Missouri, Mississippi, whatever.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:51 PM   #7
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Oh, Missouri, Mississippi, whatever.
Missouri really doesn't appreciate that.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:18 PM   #8
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Missouri really doesn't appreciate that.
I don't blame them.
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Akin is a tool. I knew that before he opened mouth and inserted foot. Brunner was my choice to go against McCaskil but sadly that didn't happen (still can if Akin would get his shit together and drop out.) Akin deciding to be a tard and stay in only proves that he isn't fit to run.
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